• nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 months ago

    I have more money and better credit than four years ago, yet im further away from buying a house or even a new car than I was 4 years ago, so honestly nothing really changed in the personal quality of life category. My salary went up, and so did the carrot on the stick they’ve been dangling out of my reach for decades. I feel like this question isn’t a great measure for Bidens campaign.

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      So you’re better off and still feel like you’re on a treadmill. That makes sense.

      And yeah, I wouldn’t pose the question like that either. Not enough has been done. The minimum wage is the same. I don’t fault him for that but it would be huge for those who struggle the most.

      It has to be a comparison with what the other side has to offer.

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        My wealth grew less than inflation so theres that too. In absolute terms im better off but factoring in everything I don’t think anything changed really, credit score did but thats hardly as much Biden, or any president, as it is some contested school debt notes falling off the reportable period because its been to long.

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    Four years ago there were refrigerator trucks full of corpses and a mob was storming the capitol to overthrow the government on behalf of a would-be dictator.

    Nothing resembling either of those things has happened yet this year, so I think in a lot of ways we’re all better off regardless of our individual circumstances. Only the second one has much to do with who’s president though.

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    4 years ago, the orange traitor shitcunt was telling us to bleach our lungs and stick UV lightbulbs up our arses.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    “Well Donald, I’m glad you asked that question man because I hope everyone in the country takes a moment to think back when it was like in March of 2020,” Biden said.

    The Democratic president reminded the audience that the coronavirus had reached America, hospital emergency rooms were overcrowded, first responders were risking their lives to care for the sick and some nurses wore trash bags due to the scarcity of personal protective equipment.

    Morgues were being set up outside of hospitals because so many people were dying, unemployment shot up, the stock market crashed and grocery store shelves were bare, Biden said.

    “Donald Trump is no longer president, that’s the first thing,” Biden said, adding that COVID is under control, 15 million jobs returned and the stock market rebounded.

    There’s also a view that the public largely has forgotten the turbulence of Trump’s presidency and that, to win reelection, Biden needs to remind them of what it was like as he presents himself as the more stable alternative.

    “You gotta elect Colin as your next senator so Ted Cruz joins another loser, Donald Trump,” Biden said.


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    Personally I was better off 4 years ago, but I was incredibly lucky during the pandemic. And I dont care about that, I’m not voting for trump no matter what.

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    things being very bad in different ways under two different presidents does not make one a better candidate over the other nor does it make either a good choice

    where are they hiding the better candidates?

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      If y’all are going to post an incessant drumbeat of why Biden sucks, I’m just gonna keep pasting a few of the reasons why he doesn’t. It’s not just that he’s a vast, democracy-preserving improvement over Trump (although, he is); he actually did several things which are unprecedented in modern US president terms:

      • He took the biggest action on climate change in US history; the goal of the climate bill is to put us on track for a 40% reduction in US emissions by 2030. It’s way too late but that’s clearly not Biden’s fault since he started fighting for it basically as soon as he got into office, and managed to achieve passed legislation which is several standard deviations above the norm for “let’s ignore it until we’re underwater and on fire” US politician status quo.
      • He ordered the forgiveness of half a trillion dollars in student debt, about a third of the current total balance, and the Supreme Court told him no. He’s still managed to forgive (edit: $138) $144 billion worth of it even against stiff Republican “no we need that money to give to Wall Street criminals pls” resistance.
      • He introduced a bill to legalize marijuana federally, which the Republicans killed in the senate.
      • He achieved the lowest unemployment in 20 years after having been handed an economy that was still digging out from the apocalypse that was 2020.
      • Wages at the bottom end of the economy have actually been growing, outpacing inflation, every single year that he’s been president. The top 10% of wage earners actually have lost some ground, it’s true – that probably makes “wages are growing” not feel true to most Lemmy users, because for tech workers, they’re shrinking. But the majority of US wage earners have been making more and more year by year. $15/hr is the new unofficial minimum wage in a lot of sectors. That’s not enough, but it’s sure as shit better than when he came in and unemployment was 6% and a lot of people and businesses were still dependent on Covid-aid stimulus payments.

      The shitshow that is supporting Israel during its accelerating genocide, I won’t defend all that much. But the overall attempt to paint him as any type of run of the mill crappy-performing Democrat is just totally disconnected from how things have changed in the last 4 years.

      All the folks that like to post one-off discouraging comments like this one haven’t had much success in trying to say any of the above isn’t true.

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        him and prosecutor Harris fired staffers over cannabis and after making promises failed to do anything but pardon a very small portion of convicted cannabis users and without police reform like he also promised the divided states have gone as far as border like patrol on their borders and all the cannabis policies he could be seen as having a helping hand in have only helped corporate cannabis and the militarized police who he refuses to reign in

        he never fulfilled the upping the minimum to $15 and places like Wally’s Hell have lowered the start pay to below precovid levels lower than $15 an hour and that is just one business and corporations have been using free slave mean correctional institution residents for free labor

        consistently shat all over workers just like threating the rail workers if they kept up the protest for better work conditions

        Roe v. Wade fell on his watch and his solution? give him more funding and sign an executive order for researching women’s health or some less than quarter assed pile of manure

        what makes that man worth a vote?

        make it make sense

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          I see that I have 3 options for voting.

          Vote for Biden, the candidate that’s closest to my politics. Result: I help the government move closer to my values.

          Vote for Trump, the candidate that is farthest from my politics. Result: I help the government move farther away from my values.

          Vote 3rd party or don’t vote. Result: I have a slight sense of moral superiority because I voted my conscience but didn’t actually help the government move in the direction I wanted, and may have helped it move in a direction I didn’t want.

          Given these 3 options, Project 2025 and Trump’s stance on abortion make Biden worth a vote.

          Sure Biden’s policies aren’t exactly what I want, but they’re a lot closer to mine than Trump’s are. And since either one of Trump or Biden is going to be the next president (unless something unexpected happens), I’m going to vote for Biden.

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    no

    income is a fourth what made four years ago, inflation is continuing to rise, everyone around me is complaining about struggling, none of the issues from four years ago were fixed such as health care and minimum wage and everything else even personal freedoms are way down and the police are more militarized

    what the fuck and where the fuck and when the fuck is this doddering old fool?

    still not allowed to vote too

    shit with smell good products sprayed all over is being advertised as better than shit without smell good stuff on it