• lad@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    Normalisation of violence most likely had an effect, but I don’t think that the connection is as simple as

    Dad goes off to the factory every day, he builds missiles of mass destruction

    Edit: I was reminded that the world in the 90s, in this case 25 years ago, was quite different and likely less connected. So probably the point about geographic proximity to centers of violence production played a larger part than I thought

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      From an interview Michael Moore gave to DemocracyNow he explains the connection pretty well, I think. America is a violent country and it makes violent people.

      1. the Columbine shootings occurred on the same day as the heaviest United States bombing of the Kosovo war,

      2. the number one private employer in Littleton is Lockheed Martin, the world’s largest weapons maker

      3. Rocky Flats, the largest plutonium-making place in the world, is just down the road

      4. NORAD is just up the road.

      But you don’t think children with a childhood steeped in violence and families steeped in violence are going to grow up thinking about this? All of this militarization and violence are a cultural miasma and children absorb the lessons taught to them by America.

      Kill your enemies, make them fear you, rule the world, Be a Man!

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        8 months ago

        But you don’t think children with a childhood steeped in violence and families steeped in violence are going to grow up thinking about this?

        No, quite the opposite. But what I think is that when a country rallies violence and presents it as something normal, all of the citizens, children included, will be affected. Maybe the fact that those violence factories are near had influence, but I would guess that this influence only added a bit to what everyone got already.

        Except maybe if the workers viewed working for military as a cornerstone for their self-identity, maybe that would become a greater factor.

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          8 months ago

          Well remember, this was the 90s. Today we’re all disembodied digital nomads so it doesn’t matter what is near or far, but back then there was still a sense of place that meant having a bunch of military-industrial institutions nearby would effect the local culture.

          And maybe that’s why shootings get worse every year. The physical location doesn’t matter anymore.