• beefontoast@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Is Lemmy going to be one of the only places we can go to get uncensored content? Even the mainstream UK and US news outlets are filtering things.

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      10 months ago

      Lmao nah. Lemmy is just decentralized censorship. Anyone can ban or block anything else; anyone can start their own community instance and kill it on a whim. Multiple communities have already defederated in the less than a year that I’ve been on here.

      Lemmy solves the issue of centralized censorship/echo chamber communities, by replacing them with individual personalized echo chambers that you get to censor yourself. It’s a lot of work to set it up and sustain that type of situation, so it’s not realistic for a rational person that does not have a severe internet addiction to waste their time and effort doing it.

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        10 months ago

        replacing them with individual personalized echo chambers

        Which really wouldn’t be that bad if instances were more clear about how they operate. Like, on the user signup page, there should be a big ol checkbox saying “I UNDERSTAND THAT ANYTHING THATS NOT A POSITIVE POST ABOUT COMMUNISM WILL GET ME BANNED” or whatever

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          10 months ago

          It’s been fun abusing a Lemmy bug (or an API feature, depending on how you look at it) that lets you see what a removed comment originally said on a certain .ml instance. Unsurprisingly, they almost always were something negative about China or Russia.

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          10 months ago

          absolitely agree, the lemmy.ml mods (but especially the admons) are extremely trigger happy to remove anything they don’t like wjethet it breaks any rules or not

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        10 months ago

        Lemmy is just decentralized censorship.

        It more like the opposite. Federated instances can keep all the federated posts without ever deleting them. Then also sell and monetize it.

        anyone can start their own community instance and kill it on a whim.

        Shutting down an instance doesn’t mean it’s censorship. If a library shuts down if it can’t stay up, is that censorship?

        It’s a lot of work to set it up and sustain that type of situation, so it’s not realistic for a rational person that does not have a severe internet addiction to waste their time and effort doing it.

        Lol, freeloader says what?

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        10 months ago

        You always have the option of changing instances if you don’t like what the admins are doing, or creating accounts on those defederated instances to see what they’re up to.

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      10 months ago

      Lemmy isn’t a place. Lemmy is just the software you use to access the Fediverse. Lemmy is not censored or uncensored - only specific instances can be censored or uncensored.

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      10 months ago

      Lemmy is massively censored. I just got another ban recently for taking about .ml bans in a .world thread.

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        It’s wrong to say that Lemmy is censored. Certain Lemmy instances censor more than others. Go to instances you like that don’t censor the stuff you don’t want censored.

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      10 months ago

      I see censorship on Lemmy approaching Reddit levels more often than I’m comfortable with. The same mods moved here unfortunately.

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        10 months ago

        Let’s not pretend the mods that were already here are a lot better. But being able to shuffle off content onto separate instances does have the upside of at least being able to avoid instance admins who just don’t quite like the content in your community.

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        10 months ago

        Then go to other instances. Lemmy isn’t censored, the instances you visit are. You are free to start your own instance without any censoring if you want.

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        9 months ago

        Lemmy is not a single platform. That doesn’t make any sense.

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        Looks like the Nordic countries have some of the best protections for their press.

        https://rsf.org/en/index

        The U.S. is ranked around 45th which is disappointing considering the first amendment is supposed to guarantee freedom of the press.

        But in general western countries are far better than places like Russia, China, India, the Middle East, etc.

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          You’re completely ignoring self-censorship practiced by the press in favour of financial gains. “Oops, looks like Nestlé just paid us a lot of cash for an ad. I guess that story about their security force beating up a bunch of slaves won’t be getting a page after all”.

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            10 months ago

            “Nestlé also p̶a̶i̶d̶ gifted/lobbied someone in congress, we can’t be making the politician/billionaire look bad. We might lose our money tree”

            People are fed so much clickbait/propaganda by their news, they end up believing ratings made by themselves.

            • Ahri Boy 🏳️‍⚧️@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              10 months ago

              Nestle is worth to be automatically boycotted. Find any alternatives to their products. A lot of alternatives to Milo in my country are available, including Energen Champion.

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          The U.S. is ranked around 45th which is disappointing considering the first amendment is supposed to guarantee freedom of the press.

          Not really disappointing looking from the outside. Clickbait constitutions are good for propaganda for the populace. They tell you you’re living in the best country in the world while the politicians propose death sentence for women who have abortions. Cause war crimes the world over while populace thanks them for their service.

          “Disappointing” is putting it lightly to the amount of disgrace it has caused.