Hungarian leader praised Republican front-runner as a “man of peace.”

Hungarian leader praised Republican front-runner as a “man of peace.”

Donald Trump will totally stop funding Ukraine if he wins the U.S. election in November, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán said following a meeting between the right-wing figureheads.

“He will not give a penny in the Ukraine-Russia war,” Orbán told Hungarian state media Sunday. “Therefore, the war will end, because it is obvious that Ukraine can not stand on its own feet.”

The longtime allies met last Friday at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, a summit which was lambasted by U.S. President Joe Biden.

  • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    It’s a threat to regional peace, sure. But why would it be a threat globally?

    Because the region under threat will expand and expand if Putin doesn’t feel like there are any barriers. Why would he? This is his third invasion.

    I just don’t believe Russia has their eyes set on anything beyond maybe half of Ukraine at most.

    Based on what? Where is this figure coming from? And why is absorbing half of a sovereign nation acceptable to you?

    That part of the world is controlled by Russia and China, let them figure it out. I don’t really see why I as an American should care if Russia wins the war. [and the rest of your points tbh]

    Have you not seen the impact it’s had on the world economy and, more specifically, natural gas? We are impacted whether we like it or not. Instability manufactured by a fascist invading his neighbor for such an absurd, disingenuous excuse as “de-nazification” unfortunately involves a lot of the world when it disrupts/impacts a substantial portion of the global energy supply. Like do you actually know what is happening? This isn’t some mystical foreign land so far away it doesn’t impact us. Look at your energy bill, it’s impacting you right now. We live in a global economy and Putin is not going to stop with Ukraine.

    • Thief_of_Crows
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      9 months ago

      I don’t believe the de-nazification crap at all, but I believe he just wants control of half of Ukraine, maybe all of it if things go really well. It’s strategically important, has a ton of ports, and prevents America getting control first via NATO. If I were him I can certainly believe that’s what I’d want for Russia. I assume he’s trying to “Make Russia Great Again”, and last time they were great, they had Ukraine.

      Which 3 invasions are you referring to? All I know of is the war for Crimea. Are you calling the war for Donetsk and Donbas 2 more invasions? Cause it’s really the same war, IMO.

      As far as I can tell, the main impact it’s having on me is that America is sending all my tax money to them, which helps get our oligarchs richer, and everybody else poorer. Theoretically, we could be spending that on infrastructure and Medicaid for all.

      • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
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        9 months ago

        I don’t believe the de-nazification crap at all

        Then why should you believe anything he says or promises?

        but I believe he just wants control of half of Ukraine, maybe all of it if things go really well.

        Again based on what?

        • Thief_of_Crows
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          9 months ago

          I believe him when what he is saying lines up with what I expect him to do. Same with Donald Trump. Trump isn’t literally always lying, after all. I believe that this is the approach Putin is taking on Ukraine based on 3 points:

          1. He says so. Essentially a prerequisite in this case. Though in this case he’s not literally saying so, it’s just the subtext behind his obvious lie about Nazis.

          2. His actions don’t seem to have an ulterior motive beyond his stated ones, as far as the war goes. Are there any meaningful Russian troops movements anywhere besides Ukraine that I’ve missed? Assuming not, that points pretty strongly to him not lying.

          3. If I were the leader of Russia, I can certainly imagine that a goal of mine is to reunite the USSR as Russia, which is headlined by the need to control Ukraine again. Ukraine is very meaningful both strategically and economically, providing many warm water ports. And I would also say it’s probably overestimating to claim he even wants all of Ukraine, based on, y’know, what Russia has literally been doing, but I certainly don’t disbelieve Putin wants the whole thing.

          You can’t disbelieve people based only on who they are, it’s much easier to simply consider what makes logical sense for them to do, and cross check it with what they’ve said about it.