Scientists and vets are urging the president to afford the world’s most traded species better protections

France’s hunger for frogs’ legs is “destructive to nature” and endangering amphibians in Asia and south-east Europe, a group of scientists and vets have warned.

More than 500 experts from research, veterinary and conservation groups have called on Emmanuel Macron, the French president, to “end the overexploitation of frogs” and afford the most traded species better protections.

The EU imports the equivalent of 80-200 million frogs each year, the majority of which are consumed in France. Most come from wild populations in Indonesia, Turkey and Albania, as well as from farms in Vietnam, according to a study by Robin des Bois and Pro Wildlife, two conservation nonprofits that organised the letter.

The practice is “not at all in line” with the EU’s wildlife strategy, said Sandra Altherr, the head of science at Pro Wildlife. “It’s absurd: the natural frog populations here in Europe are protected under EU law. But the EU still tolerates the collection of millions of animals in other countries – even if this threatens the frog populations there.

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    French dude here

    I can’t even remember any French recipes for frog legs. The only frog legs I ever ate were in a Chinese restaurant, with bitter sweet sauce.

    TBH I don’t even know a single restaurant that have frog legs on the menu, and I can’t even think of a grocery store that sells frog legs.

    I eat two dozen of snails a month though. Are they endangered too?

    TL,DR I call this article absolute bullshit.

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    ??? Frogs breed super quick and aren’t that tricky to breed in captivity? I’d even go so far and say that frog meat should be rather sustainable since they eat insects which we can also breed effectively and they in turn can eat refuse from farming. I also haven’t ever seen or heard about the frog being of a particular breed or “wild caught” being part of the allure, nor seen it mentioned in a menu. This whole thing is absurd.

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      I guess what makes sense is the breeding programs could be displacing the habits of wild frogs?

      Best guess.

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    totally stupid : i’m french and nobody eat frogs leg : it’s just for tourist 🤫

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      I always assumed it was just for the tourists but apparently you guys actually do eat snails so god knows.

      I assume it’s like all the disgusting British food, no one eats spotted dick or blood pudding because frankly it’s awful.

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        we don’t eat snail, we don’t eat froggs ! i’m 56 years old, never see any french eat snails or froggs.

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    Other French folks have suggested that this is a b******* article, so I believe them. But if in fact France needs more frogs, they can certainly have the invasive bullfrogs in the United States. They are invasive and wiping out other native species and they are big.

    I demand to see French frog trappers paddling canoes around the swamps and ponds gigging frogs.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    France’s hunger for frogs’ legs is “destructive to nature” and endangering amphibians in Asia and south-east Europe, a group of scientists and vets have warned.

    More than 500 experts from research, veterinary and conservation groups have called on Emmanuel Macron, the French president, to “end the overexploitation of frogs” and afford the most traded species better protections.

    Most come from wild populations in Indonesia, Turkey and Albania, as well as from farms in Vietnam, according to a study by Robin des Bois and Pro Wildlife, two conservation nonprofits that organised the letter.

    More frogs’ legs are eaten in France – often fried in batter or sautéed with garlic and parsley – than in any other country in the EU.

    Alain Moussu, the president of the Vétérinaires pour la Biodiversité, a third group that organised the letter, said veterinarians have joined the initiative in large numbers.

    “They are both sensitive to the cruelty that prevails in this market and concerned about the ecological imbalances caused by the collapse of amphibian populations,” he said.


    The original article contains 404 words, the summary contains 172 words. Saved 57%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      I don’t know. I think I ate some once. Don’t know anyone that actually eat some often. Bet it’s mostly tourist traps selling them.

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        Wait…is it really not a common French thing? Like I didn’t think it was your hamburgers or some shit like that but I figured it was at least somewhat common over there with all the talk about it

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          The only time I’ve seen frog legs was in biology class. I’ve never seen it on a menu anywhere. It might be a regional thing.

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          Never ate any, and I don’t know of any restaurant close by that prepares them.

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          No, it’s really not common. I have maybe ate frogs once in my life and it was so long ago I cannot tell for sure I did.

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          I’m not French, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were mostly a tourist thing. I’ve had frog legs before at a fish camp in Florida, and I’m guessing the regulars didn’t normally eat them (although the gator tail was pretty good). They’re kinda slimy and chicken like, they’re a pain to eat, and there’s little meat on them. They’re just not worth the effort.