It’s gonna take two months to build the pier.
Countless will starve to death by then, and it seems like a forgone conclusion Israel is going to claim it’s not safe to let Gaza control it.
They’ll seize the port, and a stretch of land connecting it to Israel.
If Biden really wanted to do something now, he’d send US military with the aid trucks.
It’s the only way to prevent Israel from attacking the aid
We aren’t going to engage in a military operation AGAINST Israel. We SHOULD, but we never will.
What?
American military escorting American aid isn’t a military action against Israel
Israel claims they can’t let aid trucks in because Hamas will steal it.
American escort means Israel can’t use that excuse, and if Israel attacks it, they’d be attacking the American military.
That isn’t a military action against Israel in any way shape and form.
The argument for escorting aid in is because Israel will attack it… So what is the logical outcome of Israel attacking a US guarded convoy?
We are not going to put our people in that situation.
That still wouldn’t be a military action against Israel, and no American troops would be in Israel territory.
What you’re saying is that Israel would view preventing their genocide against Palestinians as an attack on them and then be “forced” to attack the US troops…
Israel would have to decide if they want to attack US military members to stop aid.
I’m not talking about hiding one soldier in a crate for a “gotcha”. I mean a loud and proud military escort of aid. Something that is 100% normal regardless of it’s a war zone or not.
I’ve spent 6 months of my life doing exactly this, lots more doing other stuff in the military.
I know what I’m talking about.
Not to mention, by your logic that would make Bidens plan to build a single pier over two months a military action as well…
You’re much closer to openly joining them than engaging against them lol.
The US? Oh, absolutely. We’ve been protecting and justifying Israel’s bad behavior for decades now.
The analogy I like to use is Israel is the shitty little kid on the playground who thinks he can get away with anything because “my big brother can beat you up!”
It’s going to keep happening until big brother steps aside and lets him get his nose bloodied.
Genocide sounds way cuter when you use a children’s analogy. We’re all adults here so we don’t need cutesy analogies though. Joe Biden structured arms deals in a way that wouldn’t meet the minimum amount for congressional oversight, in order to enthusiastically deliver weapons being used in a genocide. A genocide that’s obvious to us commoners should be fucking pretty obvious to the person with the most military intelligence in the world. So, either he’s stupid as fuck, or an evil son of a removed.
Either way, he needs to face justice.
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Technically they don’t have to finish the pier, we have vehicles made to transport marines and even tanks from sea to land. Even without our amphibious units, in May 2023 the USA had 3 ships delivering aid to shore in the Red Sea near Saudi Arabia in a shorter timespan.
It’s gonna take two months to build the pier
Not true
Your source?
Pentagon says 2 months:
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/08/politics/floating-pier-troops-aid-gaza/index.html
The army turned Omaha Beach into a working supply area on June 7th under German artillery fire. They can make a pier in less than a week in Gaza no problem if they wanted to.
There’s a lot we could do. We could end this genocide with one phone call honestly.
The threat of abandoning Israel and withdrawing our forces in the area would make Israel agree to anything. They just know Biden isn’t willing to do anything close to that.
We’re talking about what Biden is willing to do in the timeline Biden is willing to do it in.
And that’s 2 months for the US military to build a pier.
Hell we don’t even need a pier.
A LHD has a fucking hovercraft, helicopters, and can hold an insane amount of supplies.
I spent a couple years on one, and even did aid missions like this before.
We might not be able to provide electricity and water without pier connections, but we don’t need a pier to provide packaged aid.
I really don’t believe that’s true. I think Israel’s leaders have lost their goddamn minds and they’d be willing to end themselves and the rest of the Middle East in nuclear fire if it came down to it, which it probably would if the U.S. decided to wash their hands of Israel.
If I had to lay a bet, it’s that the pier is the beginning of a US outpost in Gaza, as a check to Israeli expansion.
It’ll take longer than that, once Israel starts “accidentally” bombing the site lol.
Four downvotes so far by people who literally cannot parse reality
If this were /politics it would be -100 lol.
I swear Israel must be privately threatening to nuke Iran.
Not advocating, just hypothesizing
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They don’t need food anyway Ramadan is starting they need to fast.
Damn it. Tasteless, but that’s a good joke.
I mean, they did.
Then the Israelis bombed the trucks and the hungry population surround them.
Multiple times.
It’s literally on the news?
If the truck that drives through a gate gets shot by the IDF then a truck that drives off a boat can also get shot by the IDF
And sadly most of the trucks are not getting through the border to be bombed by israel
No mate they keep getting turned away. Here’s one example:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68486248
and there was another convoy that Israel blocked because it had “prohibited items”, then it was searched and found to be ok but it was still denied entry because “fuck you” i guess. I can’t find the link atm but it’s out there.
Maybe they should stop attacking the aid trucks. The Egyptians aren’t gonna put up with that shit, and once they’re angry the gazans are gonna be in some trouble.
You mean the israelis are gonna be in some trouble
They dgaf, never have and probably never will. On this one, they shouldn’t either. Fuck Hamas, they need to go. That’s how Palestinians will get the freedom and peace they deserve. Simping for Iran ain’t a winning formula.
Even if Hamas is gone (this won’t happen because their leadership is in Qatar), Israel will just fund another fundie group so they can continue the genocide.
Qell see how long that lasts, even Qatar sees Hamas as being a problem with this negotiation.
The problem is, I don’t think either side wants to negotiate. An external enemy is so useful to those in power.
You might be right but I feel like the Israelis have some motivation with their people being held and the government teetering on the brink.
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Bro, not only is there no genocide, their population is increasing during this war. They’ve got one of the highest birth rates in the world!
“No genocide” because there are not enough dead for you yet or because of some artificial definitions in use by enitities such as the UN?
EDIT: No mass murder can be classified as genocide until the US gives the green light, am I right?
No genocide by any definition other than the ones drummed up by the white Western saviour brigade.
Merriam-Webster:
the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group
How are the Palestinian communities not being deliberately and systematically destroyed? There is no “oopsie doopsie I just blew up and later colonized your homes” caveat. Also, had it not been for the US blocking resolutions, the world community, including the global south, would have denounced Israel long ago through the UN, opening for possible peace keeping troop deployment.
