Yeah, I just don’t see any situation where Trump does shit to help the Palestinians. The one angle maybe is that Saudi Arabia has some pull with whatever they have on his son, but I see Trump being more caught up in getting revenge, saving his own ass, and thrusting America into a dictatorship to really give a shit. Israel takes advantage of the chaos and doubles down on the genocide. I don’t see either situation (Trump or Biden) working out well for Palestinians, though Dems are at least making some movement on trying to reign Israel in (not very effectively, but there’s been some attempts).
Plus you’ve got a guaranteed war in Europe with Trump turning his back on NATO allies and leaving them to the Russians. The world becomes exponentially worse for everyone with a Trump win. Anyone willing to push us towards that based solely on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is delusional.
100% agree. Is Biden perfect? Hell no, not even close. Is he light-years better than the only other possibility? Absolutely, and we’ve got to make sure he wins because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.
Is Biden perfect? No, he just continues to over and over again over months and months to commit genocide! He also does good things! He’s getting the trains to run on time!
“Helping Israel commit genocide” has been ever US president’s policy for decades at least. Deciding that suddenly this is unacceptable, but only for the left-wing candidate is sus as hell.
yes it has been every presidents policy, and it’s always been unacceptable. the current crisis is particularly Bad because it has been sped up by a factor of about 100. 10000 children dead in 4 months. Biden is a monster.
Biden is a fucking Saint compared to Trump. You can complain about the US 2 party system all you want. But the fact remains that:
Not preventing genocide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not preventing genocide, actively disassembling democracy, bringing back fascism, collaborating with active war criminals like Putin, fraud, raping, xenophobia, and promoting almost all that is awful in the world.
It’s extremely relevant, because if you remotely understand the threat trump poses, you will be supporting biden and what you’re doing right now is discouraging support under the assumption the biden admin or dems in general give a shit about opinions on online, let alone lemmy.
Proven? The uncommitted votes were 101k while Biden got 623k. The amount is substantial, but even if that entire group does not vote in 2024 Biden would still win since he had a 150k lead over Trump in 2020.
Obviously, I’m making assumptions like the same voter turnout + everyone else who voted would vote exactly the same way.
No it’s not. Biden is the only one who can stop Trump. If you don’t vote for Biden, you’re complicit in letting Trump in, just the same as if you voted for him directly. Third party tantrum votes and staying home don’t absolve you.
Proceed to cause an even bigger preventable genocide…
Yeah, I just don’t see any situation where Trump does shit to help the Palestinians. The one angle maybe is that Saudi Arabia has some pull with whatever they have on his son, but I see Trump being more caught up in getting revenge, saving his own ass, and thrusting America into a dictatorship to really give a shit. Israel takes advantage of the chaos and doubles down on the genocide. I don’t see either situation (Trump or Biden) working out well for Palestinians, though Dems are at least making some movement on trying to reign Israel in (not very effectively, but there’s been some attempts).
Plus you’ve got a guaranteed war in Europe with Trump turning his back on NATO allies and leaving them to the Russians. The world becomes exponentially worse for everyone with a Trump win. Anyone willing to push us towards that based solely on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is delusional.
This…anyone who thinks the alternatives will be ‘better’ is flat out fucking delusional.
Biden’s done some pretty revolutionary (for the US) reforms, especially for workers
100% agree. Is Biden perfect? Hell no, not even close. Is he light-years better than the only other possibility? Absolutely, and we’ve got to make sure he wins because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.
Is Biden perfect? No, he just continues to over and over again over months and months to commit genocide! He also does good things! He’s getting the trains to run on time!
“Helping Israel commit genocide” has been ever US president’s policy for decades at least. Deciding that suddenly this is unacceptable, but only for the left-wing candidate is sus as hell.
yes it has been every presidents policy, and it’s always been unacceptable. the current crisis is particularly Bad because it has been sped up by a factor of about 100. 10000 children dead in 4 months. Biden is a monster.
Wrong. It’s unacceptable for any candidate, and if people are just “suddenly” waking up to this, then it’s about damn time!
You think Trump will do any better?
Biden is a fucking Saint compared to Trump. You can complain about the US 2 party system all you want. But the fact remains that:
Not preventing genocide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not preventing genocide, actively disassembling democracy, bringing back fascism, collaborating with active war criminals like Putin, fraud, raping, xenophobia, and promoting almost all that is awful in the world.
No I don’t think Trump will do better. His party has openly stated they want Palesti e wiped from the earth.
Who are you voting for instead of biden???
the world needs more from you than just voting and stanning for the lesser evil
answer the question
why? it’s pretty irrelevant to what I’m talking about. Not Trump if that’s what you are wondering
It’s extremely relevant, because if you remotely understand the threat trump poses, you will be supporting biden and what you’re doing right now is discouraging support under the assumption the biden admin or dems in general give a shit about opinions on online, let alone lemmy.
Trumps genocide will be ten times worse than Biden’s genocide……
What the actual frek are you saying
We’ve got to make sure he stops his Genocide. Else he will lose. Michigan has already proven that and it will only get worse.
Stop being the second panel in this meme.
Proven? The uncommitted votes were 101k while Biden got 623k. The amount is substantial, but even if that entire group does not vote in 2024 Biden would still win since he had a 150k lead over Trump in 2020.
Obviously, I’m making assumptions like the same voter turnout + everyone else who voted would vote exactly the same way.
Trump had more votes than Biden in the primary. And that’s not counting all the Haley voters.
It’s looking more grim for Biden every day he continues his Genocide.
So who are you voting for instead???
No one. They don’t even seem to be in America due to the hours they’re regularly posting.
This account is just anti-Biden spam as a disenfranchisement campaign.
Let’s see if the Genocide stops. Else Cornel West looks good.
Trump thanks you for your vote.
Not voting for Trump is a vote for Biden.
No it’s not. Biden is the only one who can stop Trump. If you don’t vote for Biden, you’re complicit in letting Trump in, just the same as if you voted for him directly. Third party tantrum votes and staying home don’t absolve you.