Seriously, these guys are straight up tankies with nothing worthwhile to contribute. Can we defederate them and isolate their BS?

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    8 months ago

    It’s hardly a non-issue, they’re peddling bile fed to them by the Russian state, it has no place here. Let the communities that are decent migrate somewhere else, we should be doing our part to isolate their rhetoric.

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      8 months ago

      Where are you even coming across this? It doesn’t even hit my all feed. And I browse new on the regular.

      Edit: more so asking about .ml cuz I defederated from hexbear a long time ago. Hexbear isn’t anything but trolls. They’ll morph into whatever’s going to make you mad at the time.

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            8 months ago

            What do you mean? This is the kind of Russian propaganda we should be isolating, and its spread and acceptance on lemmy.ml should be reason enough to defederate.

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              I don’t know enough about any of it to care about any of it. I just don’t understand how this mindless communication on the internet that doesn’t spark any change in the real world matters. This goes for all political keyboard warriors.

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                8 months ago

                If you don’t see a problem with allowing open channels for Russian propaganda, I can’t make it any clearer to you.

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                  8 months ago

                  I’m saying how would I even know that that’s what it is. And if it is it’s a pretty pathetic forum to be spreading propaganda. No one in any of these threads are being persuaded by anyone. Everyone has their opinions and stick to those opinions.

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                    8 months ago

                    The messaging is clearly Russian state controlled, this person is either being fed talking points or, more likely, is an idiot who has bought into the propaganda hook, line, and sinker. In any event, propaganda replies on widespread communication to the masses to influence with its falsehoods, and we should be combating that as an instance by isolating it as much as possible to keep it from spreading.

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          Yes, that one user is quite annoying because they make things sound well researched, when they frequently aren’t. I’ve seen that user around, and I just don’t engage with them anymore.

          But the rest of the instance isn’t like that. Yeah, there are some tankies and whatnot there, so I’m hesitant to sub to anything political on that instance, but most of the rest of their users are totally fine. Their users don’t typically attack other users, so you’re only really affected if you choose to engage, and you can stop at any point.

          So that’s why I disagree with defederation. If a user on their instance harasses you, report it. If the admins of that instance do nothing, report it to admins here. If there’s a pattern of their admins allowing harassment, we should defederate.

          But having stupid ideas isn’t grounds for defederation imo.

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      8 months ago

      Nah, I just ignore them and move on. Sometimes I get around to blocking some if they’re annoying enough.

      Lemmy.ml is a big instance, so defederation is throwing the baby out with the bath water.