Now that this community has it’s own instance, is it feasible to move the wiki too like Path of exile community? Nothing wrong with current wiki of course, I just don’t like Fandom in general.
EDIT: All valid points you guys are bringing, glad to see the community here is active. Hopefully DE offer to host the wiki too somtime.
It should be noted that dormi.zone and the Warframe Wiki are run by different teams.
As far as I know, they’re considering wiki.gg as an alternative wiki platform. The Soulframe wiki is currently hosted there as a trial run of sorts.
As others have mentioned, the Wiki and the Reddit teams are different people, so what happens in one place doesn’t have much bearing in the other.
And yeah, we’re trying out wiki.gg with the Soulframe wiki right now. A bit hard when the game isn’t even released yet though. You can read more on it here.
Moving the Warframe Wiki to wiki.gg wouldn’t be crazy difficult, but there are issues that give us pause. We know Fandom isn’t everyone’s favorite though. And while it’d be nice if DE hosted the Wiki for us, it’s unlikely to happen afaik.
That said, unbeknownst to us, DE decided to reach out to Fandom and enter the Wiki into their community partnership program, which essentially just tells everyone that the Warframe Fandom Wiki is the official wiki recognized by DE. We even get a little verified badge at the top. To quote:
- “Official Wikis are verified as the preferred player-reference destination by the publisher and are promoted to the player community as such. Fandom occasionally receives unique opportunities from our official wiki partners (DE), such as the Prime Access Codes provided here. Official Wiki partners may also offer assets and access around game updates/releases that can then be passed through to wiki admins and editors (this already happens).”
I’m honestly not sure, but I don’t think this should make it any harder to move. Even so, the Wiki won’t be migrating anytime soon, sorry.
Satisfactory just moved from fandom to wiki.gg, with the devs’ blessing, so I don’t think the “official wiki” thing would be an issue (as long as DE is on board). The main issue now for them seems to be SEO, and that would be the main issue for the WF wiki too.
Woah, nice of you to directly replied here. I thank you and the crew for the amazing wiki (if I’m not wrong that you’re one of the wiki peps). I’m not up-to-date with what happened behind the scene so you and other people clarifying it is very nice to see. Keep up the good work!
It’s worth mentioning that the poe fandom wiki still ranks higher on Google for most queries than poewiki.net, even though the fandom wiki is an unmaintained ad riddled mess. The new developer supported wiki is nice, but since fandom refuse to take down the old wiki there’s a lot of outdated info that ranks highly in search results.
I’ve seen the wiki admins talk about this a few times.
They were testing the waters for a potential migration from fandom to wiki.gg with the Soulframe wiki, but they are very hesitant to move the warframe wiki unless DE hosts it, iirc.
I forgot about poe wiki being hosted by the devs. Fair enough I guess, migrating that massive of a contents is no easy feat. I wish DE can see how it’ll benefit the community like GGG does.
with how needful WF is of wiki use I’d love to see one hosted by DE itself and while Im wishing an in game way to access it as I think EVE online provides iirc. Because while I have the luxury of a multi monitor set up and so run wiki on one WF on another when Im chasing something particular, I know not everyone especially console tenno have that luxury.
It’s a wiki: user-made content. If you want to do it, go right ahead and do it. Nobody’s stopping you. That being said, the people who have worked on it thus far have put a lot of work into making it function at Fandom. Getting the same functionality elsewhere would take a lot of work.
That shouldn’t be difficult, they use MediaWiki (with a bunch of extensions, so it’s a little more complicated than just installing MediaWiki, but it could be done).
Paying for the hosting, convincing the wiki maintainers to come over, convincing the community to use yours are the difficult parts.
Yeah I was recently part of the migration for the Star Trek Online wiki (going from sto.fandom.com -> stowiki.net).
We were lucky and had all of the active administrators come along with us, but there’s still a handful of people editing the old wiki (not really a huge issue, tbh) but for us, the biggest issue is a SEO one - FANDOM’s SEO machine is far, far, far better than any independent wiki can be.
Will also throw in and say I wouldn’t expect host costs to be an issue: For our wiki the costs are about $50 a month, and via community donations we make $141 a month. Warframe is a significantly bigger game, so I don’t think the host costs would be a problem.
I think the most annoying part of the migration was cleaning out all of FANDOM’s proprietary gunk from our templates and such, though I don’t think the Warframe wiki uses a ton of that stuff (e.g we used the FANDOM extension TippingOver for item tooltips, while the WF wiki uses a custom Lua script it’d seem).
I haven’t been on the Poe wiki in years so this might be how that works as well, but the ideal solution would be to have something like the runescape wiki which has the developer shoulder the operating costs (they are currently looking into implementing ads, but that is to cover wiki staff salaries).
After getting used to it it’s really hard to go back to warframe wiki again (although with some heavy use of custom ublock rules it’s at least useable), but migrating it over was a monumental effort to the best of my knowledge.
I feel like DE would have to be the ones to make the first move here though.
