I’m here because it’s eventually going to be the better alternative.
FOSS by its nature, will keep on improving. And proprietary bloatware, by its nature, will only gonna get worse.
Also don’t let media tell you that something is dead.
If people are using it, it’s not dead.
If you’re getting value out of it, it’s not dead.
Something doesn’t need to have half the world using it to not be dead.This is such a nice mentality to have. Believing in the value of things of your own accord also helps you become resistant to marketing tactics such as planned obsolescence! Instead of being told that something is of no worth anymore and keeping on buying the latest things, you end up appreciating the things you have for what they’re worth, leading to a more sustainable outlook of life and more conscientious consumption.
Yup, you can definitely extend this way past social media. Whatever it is, if it works for you, don’t let anyone tell you that it shouldn’t. It’s too easy to get swept up in opinions of the masses. I like quiet spaces. You hear much more there.
I’ve only been here a few days, but I genuinely think the Fediverse is the future of social media. It’s not yet polished, but the potential of it all was an epiphany when I finally understood it. I’d forgotten what the real Internet was.
It was about two years ago that Matrix finally stuck for me, and while I actually tried using Mastodon, I don’t like following people. Hashtags help, but it’s not the same as a community.
For the topics I want to engage in, the critical mass is already here.
And the users control it not some corporate entity. There will be no ads, no tracking and no shareholders. The revolution will not be televised
Fuck yes, could not phrase it better. I had forgotten what the Internet was.
I do truly believe fediverse is the future. I also like it because it’s a bit closer conceptually to old-school forums, each hosted as its own server. With a difference here of added convenience of inter-connectibility. It’s also so cool to be the early adopter with the tech still a bit rough around the edges.
I really do believe the fediverse is the future. We’ve gone from: Traditional Forums, to the early days of twitter/reddit “the golden days” to present day money driven social media platforms. I really do believe the future is a platform like the fediverse where ultimately. It sounds far more sustainable.
It’s nice to have multiple communities not just one dominant commuity like reddit has. It means that those who don’t agree with a community that might be power abusing can find an alternate one on a different instance.
I think communities could have a responsibility to go cross-instance and work with other similar communities so the user can sub to multiple ones and still get as much content as they would on reddit. It really does feel like the future of the internet. I would really like one that takes away the power from big business. Internet always felt wonderful in it’s hayday being untouched by corporations. I would really like to restore and preserve that feeling but those days may well be over if things don’t change.
The year of the fediverse can’t come soon enough
It should come right after year of the Linux.
Then we’re doomed. I use linux (Fedora) as my daily drive, but I don’t see it becoming more popular than Windows in the near future.
Gaming is the biggest thing that prevents me from switching entirely to Linux, unfortunately
It was my main concern, so I dualboot (my main drive 500gb SSD runs Fedora while I have another SSD of 1TB with Windows 10).
Most games I play are running flawless on fedora (rn I’m playing No Mans Sky), as most Steam Games (you can check protondb for your favorite titles) and I’ve been more than a month without booting windows, but other titles as Fortnite can’t run on Linux.
For your games on Epic and GOG you can use Heroic Launcher. Gaming on Linux is getting easier on daily basis.
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That’s really cool—thanks for the insight! I might have to look into that one day. I’m already using three hard drives, and nothing would prevent me from having Linux on one of them. One last question if you don’t mind, how do you handle spreadsheets? I have to admit I’m quite experienced (read: locked in) with Microsoft Excel, which I do use for personal things regularly. Do you use Open Office (which has never grown on me), Google Sheets, something else? I guess that could also be a case of booting up Windows but it feels a bit cumbersome just for that.
Also, you can always try Linux first in a Virtual Machine (for example VirtualBox) to get a feeling of it without altering your hard drives, I started that way!
Regarding spreadsheets, I use LibreOffice Calc. Is not as feature rich as Excel but for me it gets the job done. I’m not sure if it works, but maybe you can set up a Windows Virtual Machine in Linux to use excel in it.
It isn’t 100% full featured, but there is an excel web app.
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I think with handhelds becoming more and more viable, and thus hopefully more popular, steamOS and other distro’s will be a must because of the god awfull windows handheld support. And with more people using them, they will also get better over time.
The Linux Desktop has been improving by leaps and bounds over the last few years.
More popular than the OS with majority market share is an unrealistically high bar for success. I could totally see linux become a mainstream desktop OS at some point.
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It’s definitely growing, but is still mainly used by techie people. Lots of people are still afraid of the command line or remember how was Linux +10 years ago. We’ll have to do our part!
I want to hope for just a wee bit faster than that.
Hosting costs are going to bite everyone in the ass. That’s the opportunity for corporations to step in and slowly fuck things up. So right now, if you look at the instances, there are a lot of topic overlap, like gaming. Now imagine down the road that say, Steam hosts their own gaming instance. People flock to it as a centralized discussion opportunity. We could easily end up back to a very corporate controlled situation.
I’m okay with the existence of the corporate run server in your example so long as alternatives remain available and that corporate server can’t start requesting removal of “competition.”
Some amount of centralization isn’t bad, so long as people can still choose to be elsewhere.
A corporate run Lemmy server can remove competition by simply choosing not to federate with any other instance.
But that would be fine, wouldn’t it? Then they wouldn’t show up elsewhere, they would basically be using lemmy as a template to make a standalone website. If they want the general audience, they would have to create a general experience that is better than being connected to all the other servers, and that would be a lot of work.
But maybe I’ve misunderstood it, because I’m new to all this.
This
This could very well be the future. Especially considering certain big tech companies (like Meta) are already trying to make their own implementations of ActivityPub. However, people are discussing ways to possibly mitigate this, like multireddits.
there is something endearing about using this new technology that’s a bit rough around the edges.
fediverse, eli5?
That’s the best explanation I have seen so far.
This is really good. When Reddit un-blacks out I am going to replace all my comments with “Left for Lemmy” and a link to this image.
It’s all quite cool. But what confuses me is that people can use mastadon to follow the lemmyverse.
They all use the same protocol, but developers pick and choose features and how they are presented. They may be able to talk to each other but the experience also may not be ideal, especially if they use different features in different ways. For example, until a few days ago kbin upvotes didn’t show up in Lemmy at all, and Lemmy upvotes did not show as upvotes in kbin, because they used different features to describe them (kbin used boosts, which exist in Mastodon but are not implemented in Lemmy).
You are in your house, I am in mine. But we can still watch movies together through your window.
This is how I watch all my movies now, I had to find a way that Netflix can’t crack down on
What I am not understanding is the concept of logging in another server. I created an account on feddit.it, can I use this account to login in a mastodon website? Or does it work the other way around, with me just using the feddit.it website (like I’m doing right now) to consume content from other instances? With the second option, if feddit.it goes down, my account is done, right?
That’s what I think happens but I’d like to know too
Your account credentials are the keys to your house, you can only enter to your own house (server/instance) with your keys, but can watch through everyone’s window (the owner of your house can block some specific windows tho).
So your second assessment is correct, and yeah I think if the server goes down your data in that instance may be lost. It shouldn’t pass long time before some migration account feature (mastodon already has one).
Great ELI5, thanks.
I don’t think Lemmy has good support for viewing Mastodon content (unlike kbin), but you can view/follow users, threads and comments from Lemmy on Mastodon by searching
@whateveryouwant@instance
You do everything from your home server.
So you’re at feddit.it, instead of going to https:/lemmy.world/c/lemmy.world you go to https://feddit.it/c/lemmy.world@lemmy.world
I don’t know how posting between mastodon and lemmy works.
And yes, if your instance dies, your account is gone. Mastodon has a “transfer account to another instance” feature, but Lemmy does not yet, but I’m pretty sure redundancy in some form is planned.
based on the same concepts as email, you pick your provider (instance) and you can get messages from anyone using a provider supporting the protocol. The naming system is similar @<username>@instance and !<community>@instance
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