• KevonLooney@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Who said anything about China? They’re not Communist. They’re just state capitalism. Why bring them up unless you think they relate to this conversation about pollution?

    The lady doth protest too much.

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      9 months ago

      The Peoples Republic of China is very much Communist, I do not even know what you are talking about with this state capitalist thing. They are a run by and for the working class. I brought them up because you brought up 2 sources about a communist nation that was illegaly desolved and so can no longer make amends for past wrongs, I feel it is only fair to talk about an Actualy Existing Socialist State, however if an argument icluding an AES state is too much protesting from me I feel that proves my point better than anything I could say.

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        9 months ago

        You don’t know what “state capitalism” is, but you’re sure that it doesn’t resemble China?

        A state-capitalist country is one where the government controls the economy and essentially acts as a single huge corporation, extracting surplus value from the workforce in order to invest it in further production. This designation applies regardless of the political aims of the state, even if the state is nominally socialist.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism

        China has a stock market. They are not Communist anymore. They’re barely even Maoist. The official position of the CCP is that Mao was 30% wrong.

        “The lady doth protest too much” is a line from Shakespeare.

        The phrase is used in everyday speech to indicate doubt of someone’s sincerity, especially regarding the truth of a strong denial.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lady_doth_protest_too_much,_methinks

        The fact that you don’t know either of these things indicates that you don’t actually understand the concepts you are attacking or defending. Read more.

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          9 months ago

          I know what the term is suposed to mean, it is a term without a meaning, I am not an imbicile. Yes there are stock markets in the PRC but if you look at them they are run by and fpr the prolotarate, not as a corperation, anyone who has done a modicum of reseaech into the PRC know this

          Also I am a fucking English speaker I knpw the fucking line, I was merly pointing out ot mase no sense in the context you where giving, where in I provide an AES example to cpunter 2 examples given to me of a socialist state who cannot?remedate the conditions they started