image transcript: caption reads “boys when they’re ricing their arch linux twink pad” over a drawing of the boykisser cat with thigh highs on and a laptop edited in. end transcription.

  • RachelRodent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    I think we have discussed about this before but in my opinion alone, what matters is the context, ricing in tbe linux community obiviously isn’t used in a discriminatory manner or intent, come on

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      9 months ago

      I haven’t discussed this here before, you must be thinking of someone else. Anyway, in my opinion, since it’s a word explicitly created to make fun of Asian people and Asian cars, like many slurs associating a bunch of different cultures with a staple food, it kinda doesn’t matter what someone’s “intent” is when they use it.

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        9 months ago

        ok I probably talked about this with someone else before then, yes but I don’t agree with you still. It isn’t really a slur when it is meant as the acronym Race inpired car enchantment or something like that what I am saying is that people aren’t using the slur, they’re using the acronym(even if the word used to mean somethşng different) and the intent very much does matter because they aren’t discriminating against anyone but using a word - albeit with a dubious origin -, that means something radically different now. Language isn’t static.

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          9 months ago

          That acronym was made up way later, and making up some acronym for an existing word it doesn’t magically make it ok or wipe out what it already meant. Sure language isn’t static but it still means that thing.

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          9 months ago

          acronym Race inpired car enchantment or something like that

          Backronym. It was a racist term in the car community for decades before somebody came up with that in an attempt to whitewash it.

          and the intent very much does matter

          Citation needed, because every single utterance of “redskins” was racist af, even if the majority of the team’s fans never had a racist thought in their heads about native americans.

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          9 months ago

          I agree slurs refer to people, but if you call a Japanese car a “rice cooker” (which is where this comes from) that’s insulting the people…

          And, yeah, at least originally. “Kraut” is one of those things that really has evolved somewhat, especially through krautrock in the 70s and other things. And whether it’s racist is complex depending on definitions and blah blah blah. But it was definitely 100% coined as a slur.

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              9 months ago

              Are you being for real? You dont understand the difference between calling an Asian person rice, and “Frenchie”? Smh my head

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                9 months ago

                What I see is someone thinking names for white people aren’t offensive. Are you being for real? Surely you must treat all of these slurs equally right?

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                  9 months ago

                  First of all, why the fuck would all names for people be equal? That’s insane. Do you think that the n word is equally offensive as those slurs you listed too? Or you just think it’s fine like calling someone Frenchie? Either way doesn’t look good.

                  Secondly this shit is so established there’s a Wikipedia page about it. Just cos you haven’t heard of it doesn’t mean it’s just being made up, there’s no need to go on some anti-woke crusade.

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                    9 months ago

                    There we go assuming what my goals are.

                    I asked you if you found them offensive or not and you went straight to assuming my political platform.