Lemmy.world starting guide

Ruud@lemmy.world · edit-2 2 years ago

Lemmy.world starting guide

PorkrollPosadist · edit-2 2 years ago

If you ask a liberal what “tankie” means you will get a response that sounds a lot like if you ask a conservative what “woke” means. The two main developers are communists, trying to collectivize social media. It is very shocking. 🙄 They develop the software transparently, out in the open, along with many other contributors. They also operate lemmy.ml, the very first Lemmy instance. Dessalines has a collection of essays he’s written on Github. If you are concerned about his beliefs, I would go straight to the source rather then taking third hand rumors on face value. As for the rest of the network, each instance (such as lemmy.world) is operated independently. The whole point of federation is to decentralize control over the network.

grus@kbin.social · 2 years ago

If you ask a liberal what “tankie” means you will get a response that sounds a lot like if you ask a conservative what “woke” means. The two main developers are communists, trying to collectivize social media. It is very shocking. 🙄

Opening with challenging the definition of “tankie” without knowing or asking on what definition I operate on is quite the red flag. Also the condescension instantly put me in defensive mode.

Dessalines has a collection of essays he’s written on Github.

Thank you for the links, now after seeing that individual’s defense and apologia of the genocidal soviet empire I’m more than convinced that is not the place for me.
Just from a cursory glance alone his attitude is vehemently imperialistic, not too different from what I’ve experienced from many privileged westerners.
Whether his heart is or is not in the right place, that’s another matter. But after a year and a half of excruciatingly depressing takes from western leftists of all kinds, I’m not going to surround myself with people that I disagree most, I value my mental health more than that.

Thanks again!

BOMBS@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

just to be clear, we’re talking about the people that created Lemmy and gave it to the world for free and do not attempt to control your personal opinion on political matters nor are telling you that you can’t use the system they developed if you disagree with them politically. additionally, you’re not even in their instance/server. so if anyone here is being judgemental and self-righteous with the Lemmy system, it’s not them. if you want to leave and hold yourself to the same standard that you do for leaving, then make sure to investigate the authors of every single system you use and then decide to stay or leave based on your congruence with their political opinions to ensure you maintain consistency. i believe you’ll find it nearly impossible to find a place, though you might find some companies what will inauthentically pay lip-service to attract the most users for monetary gain or influence.

for my next point, i want to be definitely clear that don’t like marxist-leninist theory. i find it too controlling and authoritarian. the Soviet Union definitely did some atrocious stuff, especially under Stalin. but if you want to criticize states and their respective economical systems based on the human toll, you might want to consider all of lives lost to manifest destiny, slavery, and then followed by CIA meddling in Latin America. if you’re from any country in Western Europe that was a colonial power, then I don’t even have say anything. if you’re from elsewhere without Western European ancestry, then I applaud your inherited innocence and I wish you good luck.

Also the condescension instantly put me in defensive mode.

if you want to take it as condescending, then that’s your right. no one can tell you how to feel about something. however, you can’t tell someone else what their intent was if it wasn’t openly state or clearly evident.

grus@kbin.social · 2 years ago

just to be clear, we’re talking about the people that created Lemmy and gave it to the world for free and do not attempt to control your personal opinion on political matters nor are telling you that you can’t use the system they developed if you disagree with them politically.

Yes, I understand that quite well. For me its not just a matter of them dictating one thing or another, but its about attracting individuals that favor tankie perspectives simply by espousing some form of soviet apologia or defense for various aspects of the regime.
Birds of a feather and all that.
I’ve seen this happen numerous time and its precisely why I asked about it from the get go. A lot of leftist subreddits have been taken over by those who favor systems such as the soviet imperialist one simply because they allowed those views under the guise of “leftist unity”.

then make sure to investigate the authors of every single system you use and then decide to stay or leave based on your congruence with their political opinions to ensure you maintain consistency. i believe you’ll find it nearly impossible to find a place

Yeah, that’s what I’m trying to do. Don’t think it’s possible either, but that won’t stop me from frowning upon “X imperialist system was bad, BUT” kinda takes and trying to steer clear from that crowd.

Regardless, so far it seems that lemmy.world is quite lovely, while lemmy.ml gives me quite a number of red flags (no pun intended). As long as that works, I’m fine with it. Worst case scenario I find another online crowd to hang with.

but if you want to criticize states and their respective economical systems based on the human toll, you might want to consider all of lives lost to manifest destiny, slavery, and then followed by CIA meddling in Latin America. if you’re from any country in Western Europe that was a colonial power, then I don’t even have say anything. if you’re from elsewhere without Western European ancestry, then I applaud your inherited innocence and I wish you good luck.

I’m not from America nor am I from any of the western European countries, that being said there’s no “inherited innocence” for my country. Even though we haven’t been an empire and we have been under the occupation of a series of empires - Roman, Mongol, Hun, Byzantine, Russian, Ottoman, Soviet, Austro-Hungarian - which we survived and fought against for centuries, but we still had slavery and serfdom for hundreds of years, with slavery being done on the basis of ethnicity. I mean for goodness’ sake, one of the most well known historical figures of my country is a guy who impaled ottomans on giant wooden spikes through their taint or anuses and lined the streets with their corpses - that doesn’t exactly scream progressive.

Anyway, wow mucho texto, such leftist, wow. Not the end of the world, some things work for me, others don’t, what can you do.
Thanks for the comment though!