• EdibleFriend@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Also a pedophile, but one we mostly overlook because he made some great songs and was awesome in a muppet movie.

    edit- lol yep. People hate when you point out this one is a pedo. He gets a free pass because of his awesome music. Which, admittedly, i still listen too as well.

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      9 months ago

      I have looked into this, he is certainly not a serial pedophile or serial rapist by any stretch. The single account that seems credible does not feel that she herself is a victim. The only other person with an account that paints him as any sort of predator is basically regarded as not credible, from what I’ve read. Any accusation will make a celebrity problematic to a certain extent of course, my instinct is always to side with a victim telling their story, but I don’t feel that bad about enjoying his music given the nature of the accusations. As contrasted by basically every time I hear a Michael Jackson song at this point.

      His personal beliefs and actions aside, he did some real good for queer folk, so at least there is some kind of positive to associate. I’ll reiterate though that it is very unfortunate that there is an accusation at all and I certainly take it into consideration when listening now.

      *Edited in some additional context and put “serial” before the word “rapist”

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      9 months ago

      Not to condone what he did, but there is a clear distinction between being attracted to a 13 year old girl, and being attracted to an actual prepubescent girl, you know, the latter being the kind actual pedophiles prey upon.

      I feel dirty typing the above, but what’s fair is fair.

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          9 months ago

          Yes, of course that’s a crime, and it’s disgusting. But it’s not pedophilia.

          Think setting a house on fire vs setting a house in fire with a family inside. Different crimes.

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            9 months ago

            Yeah because clearly there’s a huge difference between 12 and 13, we all know girls reach puberty on their 13th birthday.

            Fucking pedo apologist.

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              9 months ago

              Good thing you’re not a lawyer or a judge. This kind of conversation has been done over and over and over again ad nauseum, so I won’t engage with you in this respect. Think whatever you want. I know what I’m talking about, and I know how to think with my brain while setting my feelings aside.

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                9 months ago

                They don’t want to use their brains. They just want to be outraged and mad at others.