• burble@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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    I hope they can pull it off.

    I also hope that “small” means a Fiesta, but, knowing the US, the smallest I’m expecting is an Escape.

    A Maverick EV seems like it could do well.

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      Yeah I would love to see Ford go back and dust off some of those sedan assembly lines. Like, what were they even thinking?

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        Long story. But rumors were potential merger with VW. Or at least, heavy cooperation on platforms.

        Currently VW Amarok is a Ford Ranger. Ford is helping VW further with commercial vehicles. In return Ford is getting EV platforms VW was already ahead on developing. Pandemic and other delays messed up product timelines though. To the point Ford decided recently they’d rather not be so dependent on VW.

        But for next few years, if Ford releases a small EV, you can pretty much bet it’s a VW MEB chassis underneath.

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      The weird thing is that gm and Honda were working together to do this too, but they cancelled their partnership last year because it was “too hard to do”.

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        translated into ceo-speak: “we make more money selling these big monstrosities, and having a cheaper alternative would cut into that”

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      Seems a severe lack of estate cars and vans on the roads.

      Have everything you need.

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    It’s an absolute fucking travesty that Ford straight up doesn’t sell 4-door cars in the US anymore. I goddamn HATE SUVs and crossovers. They are awful to drive, and they suck to be around, as another driver, a cyclist, or a pedestrian.

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      They called it the Mustang MachE by accident.

      Edit: sorry that’s more like a focus. A fiesta would be nice 🙂

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        A machE is longer, wider, taller and way heavier than even the most bloated version of the focus. It’s just another lame crossover.

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    That’s always been my problem with EVs is that they just cost too much money.

    If I could have gotten an equivalent electric car to my Mazda 3 for the same price I would have.

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      Right. In 2017 I had to buy a car and decided to go new. For $20k I got a hatchback that serves all my needs, even as a fwd vehicle. There isn’t a single EV on the market that comes close to that price, let alone in that form factor.

      Edit: I should mention that this sub-compact vehicle has 150hp, 4 doors, and seatbelts for 5 (including driver). It’s an excellent family vehicle that’s very safe and would be a great learner’s car in the future. It’s even mechanically simple and easy to repair. If I could just have this exact car in an EV form that didn’t cost 2.5x as much, I would be happy to upgrade.

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      We are financially lucky enough to have been able to buy a model 3 in 2018, and we chose to do so because we wanted to vote with our wallet and express to these auto companies that we value green(er) tech and want it to continue. But we also thought that by signaling that, auto companies would work to make that possible for people who are not as financially lucky as we are. Oops, we forgot we live in a capitalist hellscape.

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      The upfront cost is definitely higher but I think it’s possible to price an entry level EV that is perhaps just slightly more expensive than an entry level ICE vehicle but is cost effective when TCO is taken into account. At least that’s the hope.

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        Yeah but they’re not priced slightly higher, they’re priced exponentially higher.

        I can’t afford a Tesla, even if it’d save me money on gas. It may be cheaper to own with a TCO calculation but I was able to purchase my vehicle outright. I would have to take out a loan and do financing if I were to want to purchase an EV. I may pay more overall for the life of the car in gasoline, but ultimately that is an expense that’s amortized over time, and doesn’t have an interest rate attached to it.

        I don’t like leasing or financing. I find it to be a waste of money. I would rather generally wait and save up than amortize a cost with an interest rate. Canada’s interest rates are incredibly high right now due to recessive market forces.

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          I agree the pricing (and kinds of entry level models) are not yet available. But that’s the dream!

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    Ford had an EV strategy?

    Cuz churning out an expensive luxury ev truck ain’t it, boss.

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      Apparently, Ford’s EV strategy included ending production on anything smaller than an SUV.

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      will be a large install base for software and service

      Get ready to pay for heated seats, an app, 5G, and some garbage carOS updates instead of free Android Auto/Carplay