I’m sure these freak events really happened, but it seems irresponsib(ru)le to make people feel like this might happen to them, just for views

Update: I have hidden channel names in the interest of letting people know this is criticizing the tr(ul)end, and not any specific YouTubers

Edit: If you’re here to discuss any particular YouTuber, please scroll down. I’ve already had this discussion, and I have nothing more to consider or add regarding this derailment. I’ve fixed the problem by posting an edited image. Thank you so much!

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        Responsible reporting would include the cause in the title instead of making you click to learn this basic information. YouTube culture is a blight.

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          It’s literally what happened to the individual. Its not a bait and switch and chubby emu especially goes into detail explaining exactly what happens with a disclaimer at the beginning citing the journal this came from and explaining that this is uncommon but if you do show symptoms after licking to seek medical help and mention you have pets.

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            The title is very clickbaity. It’s only interested in getting you to click on the video. Whatever caused this person’s loss should be included in the title.

            Even when I plug that video URL into youtubetranscript.com, the exact cause isn’t disclosed upfront. It’s specifically written to increase engagement and monetization. That’s the opposite of credible reporting.

            Maybe that’s what it takes to survive in YouTube’s hellscape, but it’s still irresponsible clickbait.

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                It’s vague enough to spread fear, it implies that the cause is the lick itself and omits definitely relevant details. It deliberately doesn’t provide these details upfront.

                I’ve now entered that video’s URL into the YouTube Transcript site, and it’s actually even worse than I thought. The script appears to be deliberately written not to disclose the relevant facts upfront, but instead to keep you in the dark for most of the video.

                Responsible journalists include all relevant facts in the headline and first paragraph, then may go in depth into methodology, etc.

                Videos like this have one goal: To make money

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                  The video series he does is to essentially put the viewer in the shoes of the diagnosis process and mystery of it all. Is it irresponsible when videos showing mystery stories dont lead with who the killer was or when jokes dont start with the punch line?

                  If you just clicked the video you’d see the first image is a disclosure mentioning that this kind of case is uncommon and explaining the circumstances in which you should seek medical attention.

                  Overall I dont see why putting all the facts in a headline makes it more or less responsible. You want to know the story then watch it. It’s not like the story is misleading or wrong, and his video in particular is pretty thorough in going over exactly whats happening and why.

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                    But the headline should just be… What? Man dies? I guess that’s not clickbait. Not very interesting, either. Almost like YouTube videos are made to be entertainment, with some knowledge sprinkled in.

                    Chubbyemus videos are some of the least clickbait stuff I’ve seen, hands down lol.

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                    But then it still doesn’t make sense to lead with the dog lick. Clearly, there were symptoms. I doubt they rushed someone to the ER immediately after a dog licked them. That’s absurd.

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                  It’s a video made for entertainment and light reporting. Not a journalism piece. He includes the relevant facts, and he breaks the case down on a turn by turn basis. I guess every documentary about a killer or some shit is “clickbait” if they don’t tell you who did it in the first few minutes, eh? Nevermind mystery and intrigue.

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                    Yes, congratulations! You’ve described a widespread trend that I find harmful. This dishonest clickbait is “normal,” and that’s the bad part, but I’ve already tired of this discussion

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          Saying “This video is about a patient with c.diff” goes against the whole point of the presentation. The video is designed in line with vignette cases that would be presented in med school. You’re supposed to get the history and presentation and develop a diagnosis as you go.

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            But the presenter already knows the details. We’re not livestreaming the event lol

            Anyway, I’ve changed the post to omit the channel names. It’s this whole style of presentation that I oppose. Even major news outlets started doing this at some point because they learned that it gets clicks. I find it ethically questionable, but clearly you disagree.

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              It’s the viewing experience that’s the point. Would you want every murder mystery movie to be named “the killer was X”?

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                  So the only acceptable way to communicate medical cases is in 2 sentences covering the context and final conclusion? And the only reason for that is that they happened to a real person?

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      I don’t even understand why do some people think that “if the content of the videos/articles are good then clickbait is ok”

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        I think chubbyemu gets a pass because his titles are accurate, not just bait. At least every video I’ve ever watched from him, it’s been exactly what it says on the tin. Hardly a “bait”. The others? Yeah, probably shit and I’d say 50/50 they’re actively trying to… Well, bait clicks from chubbyemus vids to theirs.

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          Well…kinda. They’re always technically true, but sometimes it’s like “turns out she actually had aids for years and never knew”

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        I mean it’s an honest title and chubbyemu even goes to the extent to explain the medical reasons as to how it happened why the average person doesn’t need to worry. When that’s not the case, his videos are cautionary tales meant to inform the public of the medical consequences of behavior they might not otherwise think all the way through. I honestly one of the few cases that gets a legit pass, and it should be standard for click bait like this to be accompanied by the disclaimers and medical background he includes in his videos.

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        Yeah, I think some people got really distracted by the fact they saw the names of some YouTubers on the image. That’s why I replaced it with one that obscured the user names.

        I think their line of thinking goes something like: “I like this YouTuber, therefore they can do no wrong” – which is really odd logic to me. Some people don’t realize that actions can be bad without the person being bad overall.

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          The issue with calling specifically chubbyemus videos clickbait is that they’re just NOT. His titles are accurate as to what happens in the medical case. The others? Yeah, probably actively trying to bait clicks from chubbyemus videos.

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            The name of chubbyemu is almost triggering for me after the exhausting conversations I wound up in yesterday lol

            Oh wait, new video title idea: “The name of this YouTube channel caused a man to lose his mind”