• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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      10 months ago

      “shall be respected and protected in ALL CIRCUMSTANCES”. This absolutely is a clear cut issue.

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        If you had the full section, yes.

        You missed the part where a patient refrains from all acts of hostility (Hamas one wasnt), and terrorists don’t qualify at patients (two jihadists). Otherwise i could break a leg, admit myself to hospital and be free to plan and act upon anything I wanted.

        Those who fall under the protection are protected in all situations. Active combatants and terrorists don’t fall under the protection of the convention.

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            Being in a hospital bed doesn’t make you a non combatant - like other poster said, it’s also what you are doing from that bed.

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              10 months ago

              CNN just stated that according to the hospital, he was sleeping when he was killed.

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                10 months ago

                In the nicest way possible- irrelevant. Doesnt matter if you were awake any more than falling asleep on watch.

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                  I admit to a certain personal bias having just spent 4 days in 2 hospitals, it’s hard to be planing military action when you have tubes running in and out.

                  This guy was apparently recovering from shrapnel injuries. He wasn’t actively being a threat to anyone.

                  (caution - GRAPHIC photos)

                  https://www.reuters.com/world/this-is-moment-israeli-commandos-disguised-palestinians-walked-into-jenin-2024-01-30/

                  “Niji Nazzal, the hospital’s medical director, told Reuters the three were executed as they slept, shot in the head with silenced pistols in the room where they were being treated.”

                  “Hospital sources said one of the three, Basel Al-Ghazzawi, had been paralysed when he was wounded by shrapnel during a clash between Israeli forces and Palestinian militants in October, and was in a wheelchair.”

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                    Yes, it would be difficult with tubes running out of you - but not every hospital visit requires that.

                    This would be a much clearer issue if we had security footage of the exact moment they were killed, what was in the room, and what reaction each had. Unfortunately what we have looks like a sterilized room (evidence, not germ) and general statements that aren’t lining up - little blood stains for three people killed by gunfire, nothing in the room except shoes (no bags, clothes, medical equipment apart from the bed including the supposed wheelchair he was in or supposed firearms), and shot by silenced pistols when the team went in with assault rifles?

                    I mean, at the end of the day we probably won’t get the full story, thats up to international courts. But fuck there’s alot of misinformation and blatant incorrect statements.

                    Oh, and sorry to hear about your hospital stay - hope you aren’t in a user pays system.

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      Oh look - links to the act, information provided in a clear and balanced way, and discussed without insults and posturing is downvoted to shit yet buh, warcrime is pushed to the top. Me thinks there is a bias.

      • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦@lemmy.world
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        is downvoted to shit

        You should take those counts with a grain of salt, and they shouldn’t mean anything in principle since we have no Karma here. I caught someone making two accounts just yesterday to downvote everything on my profile. Lemmy has a clear vote manipulation problem and some are clearly weaponizing it to try to hide some stories from those who filter by “Hot”, like for instance this story which literally got censored by the bot downvotes: https://lemmy.world/post/10789603

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          I know it means nothing as both there is no karma and they are worthless, but misinformation and lies still carry weight based on what people believe others think.

          If we want a community where facts and evidence are supported we need to be supportive of those that provide facts and skeptical of those that throw out emotive language and half truths.