No, these men need to communicate better with the women in their lives. They need to find and attend regular therapy. They need to practice safety regardless of their peers attitudes. They need to stand up for others rights, so we can all accommodate the burdens of life together. This list reads like a list of things men have imposed on other men from my perspective.
Ah yes, being a reasonable, empathetic member of society. “BoOtStRaPs!!1!”
I’m a depressed male, I have attended therapy, I have talked with those close to me, I have been in dark times, and I’m hella lonely. Being a fascist isn’t going to fix that, if history tells us anything, that’ll make it worse.
See, you’re a depressed male shitting on other men that are trying to empathize with you, solely because they’re men and acknowledging men still have problems.
I’m not shitting on anyone for pointing out that men have problems. I’m pointing out that there are means to fixing these problems that don’t involve picking up fascist politics.
Ah yes, being a reasonable, empathetic member of society. “BoOtStRaPs!!1!”
The majority of lads are growing up without father figures, and yet we expect them to be functional males once they are adults.
If that’s not bootstraps, then I don’t know what is.
Being a fascist isn’t going to fix that
I never claimed that was a viable choice.
I’m a depressed male, I have attended therapy, I have talked with those close to me, I have been in dark times, and I’m hella lonely.
Then you of all people should know that there’s not much out there that is going to help you get to the next level. Imagine a world where you never had to go through dark times, or attend therapy, because the way you were brought up prepared you for those times. And gave you the emotional tools to navigate support networks.
I guess the point I’m getting at here is that, you’re preaching to the choir, but I’m still over here hoping we can solve this problem for EVERYONE. Because sure, men have issues, but women not only exist, but are humans in need of the same types of help, and in a lot of cases are facing even more adversity what with global fascism on the rise.
Edit: Also was trying to say something about being bullied for wearing safety gear at dangerous jobs (my experience), and how “gotta be a strong man, can’t cry.” was like, the worst feeling I ever had, and when I let go of it and cried and had feelings I felt a lot of relief. However, I’m still very much shamed for my “lack of masculinity” amongst most of the more conservative and more manly folks I know. Makes me feel like I’m part of some out-group that doesn’t exist and has no support because women and men don’t want anything to do with me.
No, these men need to communicate better with the women in their lives. They need to find and attend regular therapy. They need to practice safety regardless of their peers attitudes. They need to stand up for others rights, so we can all accommodate the burdens of life together. This list reads like a list of things men have imposed on other men from my perspective.
There’s those bootstraps I was talking about.
Ah yes, being a reasonable, empathetic member of society. “BoOtStRaPs!!1!”
I’m a depressed male, I have attended therapy, I have talked with those close to me, I have been in dark times, and I’m hella lonely. Being a fascist isn’t going to fix that, if history tells us anything, that’ll make it worse.
See, you’re a depressed male shitting on other men that are trying to empathize with you, solely because they’re men and acknowledging men still have problems.
You’re also just being a dick.
I’m not shitting on anyone for pointing out that men have problems. I’m pointing out that there are means to fixing these problems that don’t involve picking up fascist politics.
The majority of lads are growing up without father figures, and yet we expect them to be functional males once they are adults.
If that’s not bootstraps, then I don’t know what is.
I never claimed that was a viable choice.
Then you of all people should know that there’s not much out there that is going to help you get to the next level. Imagine a world where you never had to go through dark times, or attend therapy, because the way you were brought up prepared you for those times. And gave you the emotional tools to navigate support networks.
Imagine stability.
I guess the point I’m getting at here is that, you’re preaching to the choir, but I’m still over here hoping we can solve this problem for EVERYONE. Because sure, men have issues, but women not only exist, but are humans in need of the same types of help, and in a lot of cases are facing even more adversity what with global fascism on the rise.
Edit: Also was trying to say something about being bullied for wearing safety gear at dangerous jobs (my experience), and how “gotta be a strong man, can’t cry.” was like, the worst feeling I ever had, and when I let go of it and cried and had feelings I felt a lot of relief. However, I’m still very much shamed for my “lack of masculinity” amongst most of the more conservative and more manly folks I know. Makes me feel like I’m part of some out-group that doesn’t exist and has no support because women and men don’t want anything to do with me.