• polysexualstick@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    In the same vein, Israel’s right-wing regime was in no small part created by Islamist hostilities towards Israel and Jewish people from the very start

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      11 months ago

      Do you mean prior to the Israeli occupation of Palestine in 1967? Because I think it’s somewhat reasonable to be hostile towards an occupational force.

      Not a gotcha I’m genuinely curious at what point in history you are referring to, apologies if it sounds antagonistic.

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        11 months ago

        Not only an occupational force, but one extending colonial rule with arguably as bad or worse treatment of the native populace (and no, jews moving to Israel are not native to the land just because that was true a long time ago and they have a book telling them it is so).

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        11 months ago

        How are you just casually missing 20 years of history before that? Not to mention the preceeding 1000 years.

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          11 months ago

          So you’re saying Israel has a right to genocide Palestine because of the previous thousand years of history before 1967?

          We can cherry pick timelines if we want to, but the fact is that Israel has occupied Palestine for the last 50 years. This is why Hamas exists, and this is the issue we face today.

          The previous thousand years only serve as propaganda for modern Israel to be on board with the genocide.

          This is just straight up islamophobic rhetoric

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              11 months ago

              According to the idf Israel removed themselves in 2005. But this is under heavy scrutiny from various human rights organizations.

              "The United Nations, international human rights organizations and many legal scholars regard the Gaza Strip to still be under military occupation by Israel.[5] This is disputed by Israel and other legal scholars.[75] They argue that occupation requires an actual, physical presence by a military force that maintains authority.

              Following the withdrawal, Israel continued to maintain direct control over Gaza’s air and maritime space, six of Gaza’s seven land crossings, maintains a no-go buffer zone within the territory, controls the Palestinian population registry, and Gaza remains dependent on Israel for its water, electricity, telecommunications, and other utilities."

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza

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            11 months ago

            Wow, those leaps could set a world record. Get real. You’re cherry picking and then accusing me of cherry picking?

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                11 months ago

                If you knew anything about what you said, you’d be able to figure that out yourself.

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                  11 months ago

                  So you’re not going to provide any context at all? I’m not going to give you your answer for you.

                  Tell me what leaps you are referring to so that I can better educate myself, or fuck off. It is truly that simple.

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                    11 months ago

                    You’ve already proven you don’t give a shit about educating yourself with your previous comment. I bought that bullshit once, I won’t again.