• Omnificer@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Even allowing for the unproven assertion that souls exist, at no point does that soul obligate giving up bodily autonomy.

    You can’t use organs from corpses without permission, you can’t force a drunk driver to provide an organ to a kid they ran over, you can’t force a parent to donate an organ to their own child. All of these things would save “souls” but is hardly part of pro-forced birth platforms.

    And if fetuses have souls, that would surely make the Christian god the true murderer as 10 to 20% of all pregnancies end in miscarriages, but the Christian god is held to a lower moral standard than human beings by pro-forced birthers. And the governments that reject welfare programs are also held to lower moral standard for some reason, as well.

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      You don’t need to agree with the women who oppose abortion because they believe a fetus has a soul in order to accept that these women do in fact oppose abortion because they believe a fetus has a soul. I’m not arguing that they’re right but only that they have their reasons, which they aren’t secretive about. People who wonder “how could women vote for Republicans” are ignoring the straightforward explanation that those women readily provide.

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        10 months ago

        If they can’t give a reason that’s internally consistent why should I believe them?

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        This is the internet in 2024. You can only be “Right” or “Wrong” and that depends on which color flag the topic falls under, unfortunately.

        I’m slowly giving up on even trying to highlight any shades of grey. The goal on both sides seems to be “Shoot first, as questions later.”

        Just hoping cooler heads prevail.