• Kalkaline @lemmy.zip
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    10 months ago

    It sounds like the chargers aren’t working properly which is a PITA when you need to charge. That said it’s funny how this makes the news when EVs have the rare malfunction, but the 4-5 ICE vehicles I saw broken down today didn’t make the news.

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        10 months ago

        Nah, but the tactics are different and most states carbrained their way into allowing EVs on the road before making sure the fire department could deal with it properly.

        There’s subsidiary points here, like the ever present thing about them being banned from parking garages. Parking garages have fire surpression systems designed with ICE cars which may not work so well against EV cars because the necessary throughput of water just isn’t there, which runs you the risk of turning your parking garage into a lithium fired blast furnace should an EV ever catch fire or get torched. You can pretty much see why in the weighing of cost to change the entire surpression system vs. like 10% revenue loss from EV cars latter end get’s the short stick.

        It’s just the same as always I’d argue, a new type of car was rolled out on the streets too early because it has the promise of saving the car and now societally we get to scramble around this bullshit, again, with the added benefit of EV cars enthusiasts seeing some sort of wide spread conspiracy against their climate saving miracle machine

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          10 months ago

          Firemen don’t really have a way to deal with EV fires at the moment, the way that it is dealt with is pulling the car out of the parking garage and letting it burn.

          A second thing that makes this problem worse is that property owners have a terrible habit of putting charging stations at the back of parking garages, since they don’t want people to park in those spots without charging, meaning that pulling out the car is often impossible.

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            10 months ago

            It’ll be a rocky road to find some way to deal with this honestly. Opponents to EVs don’t care to solve it and would rather ban them, proponents for EV cars don’t want to realize there is actual problems with EV cars that just aren’t solved yet.

      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        10 months ago

        It’s a funny meme that EVs explode, but if you look at the statistics for the USA it goes (from most fires to less): ICE cars, hybrids, then EVs.

        In 2020:

        1. Internal Combustion fires: 199,533
        2. Hybrid (Partially Electric) fires: 16,051
        3. Battery Electric: 52

        idk what the 2023 stats are but it’s probably similar

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          10 months ago

          Are these proportional to number of registered cars, number of miles driven, or just absolute numbers? I’ve had a hard time finding actually useful data in the past when I’ve tried to look it up.

        • Tomboys_are_Cute [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          10 months ago

          Its not really a funny meme, EV car fires are impossible to firefight. As soon as it starts the car is toast, that shit is going to burn and its going to burn hotter than any ICE fire. Its a class D fire so the only real way to extinguish it is smothering with dry powder (sand) and creating a glass vacuum around it which is fine for a bike battery but impractical for car.