- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.org
- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.org
Just under half of likely Iowa GOP caucusgoers who support former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley indicated that they would make a crossover to the Democratic party, saying that they would rather vote for President Biden over former President Trump.
A new NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll released just one day before the Iowa caucuses found that 43 percent of Haley backers in the state said they would vote for Biden if Trump is the GOP nominee, while 23 percent say they would vote for the former president. Eight percent said they would vote for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Overall, 71 percent of likely GOP caucusgoers said they would vote for Trump in 2024, while only 11 percent said they would vote for Biden.
“Haley is consolidating the anti-Trump vote,” J. Ann Selzer, a pollster who has conducted the Iowa survey over the last three decades, told NBC. “She does well with the people who define themselves as anti-Trump.”
Also, the weird truth is that the economy did better under both Obama and Biden than it did under trump, but the wingers don’t let facts get in the way of their talking points. I’ve been worried about Haley getting the nomination because I think she could beat Biden. I don’t think trump would. For me trump winning is scarier, but more unlikely.
I’d be afraid of any GOP win. Trump rewrote the rules and they will never return to center. There is a chance who ever takes the torch from Trump is actually competent and that’s terrifying.
The pendulum swings back and forth for the US Presidency, so it’s not a matter of IF, but WHEN another Republican eventually gets into the Oval Office. Whether its next year or 4 or 8 years from now, they will eventually get into power again since the Electoral College favors minority rule. We’re fucked without massive systemic change.
By all means vote for the party that actually gives a flying duck about rules and decorum, but the Republicans have butchered the political game and there’s no going back until they have all the power. They next 2-3 decades are not going to be the future we were hoping for. Look into failing, declining democracies throughout history, or the downfall of Rome, and you’ll see a lot of similarities with the current US situation.
You can find it on Amazon, but it’s also at most local libraries, but the book “How Democracies Die” by Steven Levitsky from 2018 talks about how democracies throughout history have failed and he also touches on a few ways to save it. Well worth a read if you are into that sort of topic.
Im scared of a Trump win but terrified of a Trump loss. What will happen if he loses a second general election? I would rather see Haley get the nomination because the Trumpers would write in Trump and Biden would win easily. I’m voting for Haley in my state’s primary lmao
One thing to keep it mind, when he lost the first time, he was still in control of the government so his power and influence was far greater than it is now. This second time around, he has no power whatsoever, he’s just another citizen, but it is through his supporters, and the constant media attention, that he wields the illusion of power, but not political power. Objectively, it will be A LOT harder for Trump to attempt another coup since he no longer has all the political levers to control.
I agree with you there! But at the same time, him with less options leaves the door open for more unfettered violence. I think it’s not likely that a bunch of old racist men who cosplay as Navy SEALs would stage a widespread revolt that involves multiple domestic terrorist incidents, but… it’s sort of not impossible either. Some rightwingers took out a power grid near Fort Bragg last year. Makes me wonder if that was a drill
It sucks but does it matter at this point? There is a mass shooting pretty much every day. I bet no matter what they do it wouldn’t even budge the typical number of people who die this way a single percent for that week.
I’m not sure that would be their goal. I would expect them to target key infrastructure and personnel to maximize chaos. I don’t see them being mass murderers. More like calculated assassins and masters of chaos. Bottom line, whether Trump wins or loses, America will be worse off. If he wanted to make America great again, he would throw himself off of his tower in NYC
Legit question from a non-American - are Repubs really likely to vote for a woman for president?
A woman republican candidate will lose badly bc they would not.
Not just Republicans. I know several people on both sides of the aisle who only voted for Trump the first time because they didn’t want a woman president.