• zeppo@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Problem is the so-called tankies don’t even distinguish between MAGA people in the US and US liberals or Democrats - to them, they’re both “Liberals” as in neoliberals, and for some reason they rarely criticize US conservatives while spending plenty of time criticizing US Democrats. Doesn’t make much sense from their supposed point of view.

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      10 months ago

      TokenBoomer is a tankie bootlicker. Ignore them. Their only interest is in sobbing “Why won’t the socdems work with us???” while simultaneously saying that socdems and fascists are the exact same thing.

      “Left unity” to tankies means “Lick out boots until we put a bullet in your head”. Obey the party line!

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            10 months ago

            I’ll believe it when I bump into you at the grocery store and apologize for not being communist enough.

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                10 months ago

                I didn’t say that though. I said not communist enough as I doubt that I’d pass the ideological purity test of thinking that anything short of perfection may as well be MAGA.

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          10 months ago

          The issue isn’t with wanting to work together - that’s the key point you’re missing. It’s the way left-leaning Americans are lumped in with complete fascists, like it’s either 100% good or “You’re a LIBERAL just like Republicans!” (meaning neoliberal, which is also confusing af in American political terms).

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      10 months ago

      If you’re anti-capitalist, Republicans and Democrats are the same. And they criticize both, but…

      I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice

      Martin Luther King, Jr.

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        10 months ago

        I realize their perspective is purely economic issues. However, it completely overlooks the vast difference on social issues and the fact that MAGA wants to institute a more harsh form of capitalism, plus theocratic dictatorship. Seems like a worthy distinction to me. Plus, that doesn’t explain why they’re so hot to criticize people like Biden and Elizabeth Warren or Hillary Clinton but don’t say jack shit about the various Trump supporting clowns prominent in US politics.

        Yes, thanks for the MLK quote but not sure why you thought I needed to read that again right now.

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          I don’t need you to read it, I need you to understand it. MLK was writing about people like Biden, Hillary and Warren, who are more concerned with rules and order than justice. Trump and MAGA are the KKK. We know what they are.

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            10 months ago

            Yeah, the socially liberal lite socialists are the problem, not the conservative MAGA ghouls that want to enslave women and children… smh 🤦‍♀️

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              10 months ago

              The problem is liberals attacking tankies, who they need to work with to counter the fascism of Trump and conservatives. I want liberals and leftists to work together, but some are so hellbent on purity tests that they fail to see the big picture. Anarchists and Marxists Leninists should know that to ultimately defeat fascism, you have to dismantle capitalism.