Hey, #gringos. The war in #Ukraine is a tragedy, and a crime, and thousands of civilians have been killed and war crimes committed, by both sides.

But in all its cruelty and destruction, it PALES when compared to 3 months of genocide in #Gaza.

More than twice as many civilians have been killed, in way less time.

There has been a SYSTEMATIC destruction of hospitals and vital infrastructure.

There’s clear intent to expel all Palestinians from #Gaza.

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@palestine #Palestine

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    @palestine

    Now compare the attitude your government and your officials have. When Russia invaded, The West decided to massively arm Ukraine so it could defend itself, but when Israel started mass murdering civilians, YOUR GOVERNMENT KEPT ON ARMING THE AGGRESSOR, ISRAEL!!

    The F-16s Zelensky begged for? Israel has them, and is using them to destroy hospitals and bomb refugee camps.

    We, in the so called Global South, see this. And we will remember.

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      I’m afraid you’re missing the significance of why these people sided against Russia in the first place: all of their opinions are aligned with what they think benefits first-world countries. Russia has finally accepted there is no future of it being allowed to be a sub-imperial power like Turkey or Saudi Arabia, and it is engaging in bilateral development with China, DPRK, and many third-world countries in the same fashion China has been lending to them. So, it must be destroyed, like China, because it cannot be enclosed. Look at all of the countries that the US has invaded for the past 3-4 decades, tiny peripheral countries it could achieve enclosure of (Panama, Guatemala, Chile) at first, or simply leave destabilized (Libya, Iraq, also Chile).

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          I think that’s a very concise description. Glad I didn’t come across rude, yes the vassals can be mapped out comprehensively. Japan and Europe and SK and Aus are our favorite vassals. This reminds me I promised to get someone else Nike’s map of the value chains. There’s a step by step ladder of poor nations to maximize exploitation.

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      > Israel started mass murdering civilians

      You’re having it wrong. It’s Hamas, the ruling party in Gaza, wrecked a bloodbath killing about 1400 civilians in one day. Compare it to Ukraine that never did such atrocities.
      Recall Hamas firing rockets at civilians so that Israel has safety rooms in every home. Compare with Ukraine which didn’t.

      Though I don’t really like the idea of comparing a terrorist state of Hamas with a democratic Ukraine.

      @palestine

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        @polezaivsani @palestine

        The history of the Ethnic cleansing of Palestine didn’t start last year, but in 1948.

        Israel has murdered, raped, forcibly displaced and imprisoned with out charges (kidnapping) Palestinians for 7 decades.

        In 2018, Israel shot at peaceful demonstrators in Gaza, deliberately maiming them.

        Go educate yourself. Read up on what the Nakba was.

        Gaza is not a State, and the ones carrying out a genocide are not Hamas.

        Long live the Palestinian resistance.

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          @argumento @palestine 6th Oct - ~0 deaths. 7th October - over ~1400 killed by Hamas Palestinian terrorists. That is why Israel is now after every single terrorist hiding amid civilian population of Gaza.

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                @polezaivsani @palestine

                I’m not the only one accusing Israel of carrying out a genocide, Raz Segal, Francesca Albanese, Illan Pappé, Finkelstein, Craig Mokhiber, and the lawsuit the South African government submitted to the ICJ also claim Israel is carrying out a genocide.

                Why do you believe you know better than all of them?

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                  @polezaivsani @palestine

                  Nothing that happened on October 7 justifies the mass killing of 23 thousand people, more than 7 thousand children. The destruction of Mosques and Churches, of urban infrastructure both in Gaza and the West Bank. The mass detention w/om charges of Palestinians, that have reported torture and some of them dying under torture. “Execution style” killings by the IDF.

                  1,200 killing do NOT justify 23,000 ones.