cross-posted from: https://lemme.discus.sh/post/851

I recently found this Firefox extension that looks safe (I checked some network activity but DOUBLE CHECK) and brings back Karma on Lemmy!

INB4: if you don’t like karma on lemmy, you are in good company. There is no need to hate the ones that do like them.

Of course being unofficial it’s just a cosmetic feature, so it hopefully can be a funny thing without going to be toxic like on Reddit.

How much karma do u have?

  • Jears@social.jears.at
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    6 months ago

    Karma inherently breeds monotony and circlejerking. When people “farm” for fake internet pointe by appealing to the oppinions of everyone else it leads to people just expressing one “right” (popular) oppinion.

    I think we are fine without a karma system, but if you like it go ahead and use the extension. I’m happy I don’t have to worry about karma, and worst of all, karma minimums on communities here.

    • Spzi@lemm.ee
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      When people “farm” for fake internet pointe by appealing to the oppinions of everyone else it leads to people just expressing one “right” (popular) oppinion.

      We have the same result already, for several reasons. One is, we do have karma within threads.

      Another is, people will get backlash for voicing the “wrong” opinion even if there is no point system. People happily reply to correct someone.

    • The Cooking Senpai@lemme.discus.shOP
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      6 months ago

      (for the above one: this is a nice answer which keeps things polite and enjoyable)

      Absolutely, for me is just a silly thing I will look just to remember all the things i posted. I agree competitiveness is the worst. To be honest: I feel that “circlejerking” thing also for upvotes/downvotes but i guess is personal

  • Kbin_space_program@kbin.social
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    No, absolutely not.

    Karma is a gameification concept designed to hook you into constant interaction with the site. It is utterly toxic.

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    It’s not needed. It doesn’t drive originality or communication and encourages the exact opposite. I don’t post here to get popular but for my own enjoyment. I look forward to the day the niche communities I loved on reddit become a thing here without the karma influence, would hate to have it just be another copy.

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    Ah karma. That’s something I really did not miss one fucking second. It can stay there please!

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    If you want to see your “Karma” Kbin natively has a reputation feature - Having said that I disagree with the idea entirely.

    It isn’t a good way to gauge trustworthiness as it can easily be farmed by posting large amounts of mediocre content that people are likely just to upvote passively.

    It’s far better to just look at someone’s post history to see the substance of their contributions to the site - obviously that takes more work to check, but it’s also way harder to fake.

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    if you want to view exposed ‘karma’, you’ll nee to pick a different product than lemmy. id suggest kbin/mbin.

    the lemmy devs are hard set against it.

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        they really want to be this alternative/off-ramp to reddit but dont really want to provide the features that draw users to reddit. i get it, some of those features are abused to some extent.

        i feel this feature should be instance-specific. the developers shouldnt make that call. the instance admin should be able to enable what the community wants. if lemmy.world hates karma, groovy, but let lemmy.ca show it if they want.

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    I’m not a big fan of karma either, I definitely don’t want to see it baked into the core protocol. However with this implementation, it doesn’t seem to harmful as most users won’t have it.

    I would also love to see some experimentation with different methods of assigning karma on the fediverse. The Community Notes algorithm from twitter is very interesting as it boosts answers that have support across many groups of users. It’s an attempt to encourage answers that reach across divides, instead of ones that foster echo chambers.

    Let a million experimental flowers bloom!

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    gah. no offense to karma sluts but my main hope is the federation would be made up of the reddit folks who don’t care about karma and only know about it because of the insistent posts about karma. I like various forms of upvoting to identify good content but also as a type of bookmarking so I sorta like the boost as well as upvote. like one is hey I think this is a good post or comment but another is like this is so good I want to be able to find it later.

  • SuperSpaceFan@lemm.ee
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    No. It’s one of the things I like, that makes Lemmy different from Reddit. Why create a Reddit clone?