LOS ANGELES (AP) — A new California law that bans people from carrying firearms in most public places was once again blocked from taking effect Saturday as a court case challenging it continues.

A 9th Circuit Court of Appeals panel dissolved a temporary hold on a lower court injunction blocking the law. The hold was issued by a different 9th Circuit panel and had allowed the law to go into effect Jan. 1.

Saturday’s decision keeps in place a Dec. 20 ruling by U.S. District Judge Cormac Carney blocking the law. Carney said that it violates the Second Amendment and that gun rights groups would likely prevail in proving it unconstitutional.

The law, signed by Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom, prohibits people from carrying concealed guns in 26 types of places including public parks and playgrounds, churches, banks and zoos. The ban applies regardless of whether a person has a concealed carry permit.

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    “The people.” Also the US Air Force but that’s a whole different matter. I literally just addressed this in a different post so I’ll just copy and paste.

    The “but it says well regulated militia” argument has never been in good faith or intended to be intellectual. It’s just a blatant fallacy that gets repeated over and over in echo chambers hoping to sway uneducated bystanders. It has never held water or been supported by any court case/precedent (to include Miller which was literally argued one-sided without opposition). It is absurd at face value that literally the 2nd right in the list of things the framers wanted to protect the citizens from their government is the government giving itself permission to have arms. It is never meant to make sense or be intellectual, it’s literally just circle-jerking to pretend that it gives them moral superiority for hating a right that they don’t like.

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      Yes I’m the one arguing in bad faith but this copy pasta which never actually makes an argument isn’t

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        It’s something I personally typed out right before you responded, not just “copypasta.” It also does make an argument explaining that no court precedent has ever existed limiting the 2A to a collective militia and has been specifically expressed as an individual right in SCOTUS rulings going back well into the mid 19th century. I also explained the ridiculous fallacy of implying that right in-between saying the government can’t restrict your speech, religion or right to privacy they decided that it was super important to specify the government itself had the right to an armed militia. The militia is and has always been the people, so naturally, the people need the right to keep and bear arms. It’s almost like that is why it is exactly what the 2A says and why during it’s creation they even discussed and re-worded it to make sure it was stronger and couldn’t be misconstrued as allowing the government to restrict individuals. But yes, just keep repeating the same argument that has never survived a single court case and has been disproven at every step of the way going back to when the Bill of Rights was written, if you repeat it enough in your echo chamber you might convince some 12 year old that hasn’t actually read any facts yet.

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          The militia is and has always been the people, so naturally, the people need the right to keep and bear arms

          This is the most laughable hogwash I’ve seen today. Needless to say I couldn’t disagree more with the bizarre fantasy you call an opinion

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            So literally binding supreme court precedent dating back over a century is a bizarre fantasy but a repeatedly debunked fallacy that happens to suit your fancy is just perfect. Got it. Repeating what you want to be true over and over against all reason and evidence doesn’t make it true.

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              The supreme clearly has been wrong before and I don’t know why the fuck you’d even pretend otherwise

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                They’ve also been right and usually aren’t wrong over and over again spanning back several generations, especially when the intent of the founding fathers was quite clear to any but those wishing to strip rights from people.

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                    Says the person trying to strip people of rights because you want to consolidate power for your side. Thankfully the Constitution specifically protects us all from you.