The Sunshine State governor made a similar comment recently when he warned that Maine’s ruling disqualifying Trump ‘opens up Pandora’s box’
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has revealed that he’s “looking” into ways to block President Joe Biden from the 2024 primary ballot in Florida.
“This is just going to be a tit for tat and it’s just not gonna end well,” the GOP presidential candidate warned Friday alongside Rep. Chip Roy, R-TX, according to a video posted by CNN. “You could make a case — I’m actually looking at this in Florida now [if we] could we make a credible case” to block Biden from the ballot “because of the invasion of 8 million.”
But like…that’s the thing. They have to look for a credible case to remove their political opponents. In contrast, the reason to remove Trump is self-evident, even to Republicans.
Conservatives think any consequences they have is retaliation.
So they don’t see the difference in this.
It’s just the lack of empathy, if they do something illegal, they assume everyone else does it too so it’s fine. If they get in trouble, it’s obviously not fair because in their head they’re being singled out.
God can you imagine Biden saying, “it’s not persecution you dumb fuck, it’s consequences for your actions!”
Nope.
And that’s the problem. Biden would never say it because he thinks there’s still a bipartisan future.
I’d rather our Presidents weakness be “hope for a return to normalcy” than “Putin’s hot gooey load”.
Everything Republicans do is retaliation for things Trump has done to himself. There are 0 credible reasons to remove Biden from ANY state ballot, but they’ll try to find a way regardless.
Then they will be sued, and they will lose. Unlike the GOP, the Democrats have really good lawyers.
That’s because GOP lawyers are too busy advocating for the death penalty for homosexuals in Africa
What’s more, if they are going to remove Biden for failing to prevent illegal immigration (despite actually having significantly higher arrest and deportation numbers under Biden than Trump), then they should reasonable have to remove Trump as well… given, you know, the whole insurrection thing. To not do so would imply that the supposed failure of a president to sufficiently address one very complicated issue (even though he’s better than Trump on this issue by their own metrics) is worse than attempting to coerce officials into “finding” votes for him, conspiring to produce fraudulent electors, lying and defaming for months about supposed fraud that had no basis in fact, and, of course, inciting an insurrection on the capital building.
And they won’t give Biden the money to fix a border crisis because they know it will help his approval numbers leading up to the election.
More importantly, the Democrats also have better arguments and facts (at least in this case).
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Yep. If there was a credible case, it would already be motoring through the court.
god this is going to be such a stupid year
No, it’s gonna be a stupid decade or even longer. And it’s already been going on for a while. Thats what you get when for years you ignore a dysfunctional education system and promote idiotism. It doesn’t vanish over night and finds its way into public discord. Then it’s years of not strong enough responses to totalitarian practices and you get another fascist italy or nazi germany.
Trump tried to overthrow the government and he is still allowed to run for president. Im just hoping the title of a history book chapter describing this will not be “causes for 3rd world war”, but I’m not optimistic.
We’re already in ww3
Nope, we’re still deep in proxy war territory. Why ruin your economy when you can turn a foreign country to rubble to project power?
I honestly expect this year’s stupidity to trump all previous ones
again
Good ole fascism.
This is a play to delegitimize the courts. Fascists know that Trump deserves to be knocked off the ballot and that Biden does not. They don’t care. It serves them well to have their case laughed out of court so they can campaign off removing the deep state from the courts.
Man I wish there was a way to penetrate fascist propaganda.
My grandfather says that .308 does a good job penetrating fascist propaganda.
Necked up to use 7mm works nicely.
Exactly this. They know they can’t have Biden removed, all they need to do is make the appeal. Then when they get knocked back they can whine about corruption.
This clown will be quickly forgotten. Deservedly so. What a colossal embarrassment.
He’s just such a little removed, fucking lol.
Yesterday would’ve been too soon
Sounds like giving comfort to an insurrectionist. We should remove him from office.
“Credible”… Can you define that Mr. DeSantis?
Narrator: He couldn’t.
I’m glad I will be canceling out one dumbass vote in Florida…there’s literally dozens of us who aren’t Nazis tired of this stupid short fuck.
If DeSantis were even remotely serious about his Presidential campaign this wouldn’t be the play. Trump being removed from the ballot would not require retaliation and would be good for him. But let’s be honest here. He’s known he’s not running a Presidental campaign for months now. He cratered. The best old puddin’ fingers can hope for is somehow getting Trump to pick him for VP.
I still can’t believe DeSantis eats pudding with his fingers like a total fucking psychopath.
Excuse me, what? I haven’t heard about this yet but lol
It’s a thing he apparently does, multiple people have reported witnessing him do it. For whatever reason the man likes eating pudding with his fingers.
Does he eat soup with his elbows?
All the Republican candidates, except Christie, want to stay in Trump’s good graces - they know they can’t win if he so much as sneezes at them so they grovel at his feet and just hope he gets disqualified on a technicality.
This “we’re gonna remove Biden from the ballot” thing is the most elaborate masturbating contest between the GOP, man.
republicans don’t run on credibility.
they’re practically immune to credibility, let alone merely blind to it.
Hey hey guys wait maybe he’s got a point…
…Let’s remove ALL of them from the ballot and purge all the old money from politics to find candidates that actually represent the people of their nation. 🤔
If only we could then dump that campaign money into schools and a national train system…
Seriously. I’m fine with not having an 80 year old run this country when any other time they wouldn’t even be considered for a job.
I get the sentiment, but using the Justice Department to illegally remove a political candidate who hasn’t broken the law (talking about Biden here)!? Yeah, there’s no way that gets abused…
He knows GOP voters don’t follow up on anything and their memories don’t extend beyond the last Fox News show they watched. That’s why he can say shit like this knowing full well he won’t come up with anything.
Do normal people openly and candidly characterize their own motivations as “tit for tat”? I thought that was typically pejorative.
What do we mean when we say that first of all we seek liberty? I often wonder whether we do not rest our hopes too much upon constitutions, upon laws and upon courts. These are false hopes; believe me, these are false hopes. Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it. While it lies there it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it.
— Hon. Billings Learned Hand
When we have devolved to “tit for tat” when we’re no longer looking for liberty and justice. There is nothing our Constitution can do, there isn’t some magic arrangement of words written by long dead men that saves us, that saves our notions of liberty and justice.
It will not be denied, that power is of an encroaching nature, and that it ought to be effectually restrained from passing the limits assigned to it.
— James Madison (Federalist 48)
James Madison is talking about power-grabs here. He’s stating that, there’s never going to be some magic law written down on paper that’s going to stop power-grabs. People, the people we put into to power, the people who have the trust of the public. People That’s it. That’s all there is. That’s the only thing that stops it. And when the people aren’t there to stop it…
You cannot.
This is why this kind of talk is dangerous. This is why making it personal and not looking to protect the public is bad. Because, like it or not, people like DeSantis, if they’re not defending this nation, if they are simply looking to “tit for tat” to make some sort of point. They hold a mighty amount of trust and they’re using it to be on the look out for retribution rather justice.
There aren’t any magic words in the Constitution, it’s inside our heads that matters. This is the stuff that starts getting sobering.
Do you post any writing online? I’d like to hear more. Your quotes and analysis were pretty poetic.
I felt the same. I wish we could give this person the voice to give speeches at national assemblies.
In the US, the Democratic caucus season is approaching in March in my state. Anyone can attend and they hold elections for local and state party offices. It’s probably one of the few settings where a persuasive and savvy speaker can use that to directly get to a position to help select people to run for offices.
In a protracted, passive-aggressive civil war scenario such as we face now, influencing local and state officers to hold the line on basic decency can make all the difference over time.
I get it, the national party sucks. I hold my nose on many issues and I am not a dyed in the wool D. However, if you want to do more than vote you can make a vast difference in school board, city and county level offices.
In the 2023 mid-terms, our school boards balance of power against a slate of MAGA candidates hinged on less than 100 votes. I talked directly to about that many people during about 6 total hours of GOTV canvassing. I didn’t turn the election single-handedly of course, but it is gratifying to be able to point to a good electoral outcome and see directly how my efforts contributed. That’s hard to say when volunteering for national and governor level offices.
Do it, pussy.
