• @Sunforged
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    -322 months ago

    Keep beating that war drum US “think tank”.

          • @umbrella
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            -132 months ago

            by provoking for years

              • @umbrella
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                -52 months ago

                like every geopolitical relation works like your family

                • @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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                  72 months ago

                  Good one. The argument is still bullshit that disregards the agency of independent states to freely associate with whomever they choose.

                  • @umbrella
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                    -12 months ago

                    it also disregards the fact russia dont want to be crushed by the us without a fight. putin aint a saint but come on

            • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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              92 months ago

              Instead of this"provoking" I assume NATO should have simply attacked instead? You know, like Russia did over and over again?

              • @umbrella
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                -52 months ago

                no, NATO/US should have not provoked, simple as.

                russia wanted to join NATO over and over for years.

                • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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                  32 months ago

                  Provoke how?

                  What about Russias multiple attacks?

                  When did Russia ever say they want to join NATO?

                  • @umbrella
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                    ex-nato head said they wanted to over and over again when putin got to power, in the early 2000s, im sure they kept trying for a while. i vaguely remember news about this at the time.

                    russias multiple attacks came much much later when it became clear they were actually hostile to russia, and because moscow is in a pretty delicate, difficult to defend location, before the aral mountains. even the soviets had this in mind, almost a century ago.

                    damn, the cia knew war on ukraine would eventually happen if they kept pushing by, like, the late 2000s or something? i’m not sure on the timeline on this one.

        • @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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          262 months ago

          Every economy in the world is slaved to perception. Doesn’t change the fact that in order for a war to happen in the South China Sea, the PRC will have to be the ones to start it.

          • @Sunforged
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            -132 months ago

            Do you not see a problem with articles like this that justify their reasoning through bad faith?

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              162 months ago

              The Chinese economy has been doing comparatively worse to how it had been doing previously. The article you sent indicates it’s been doing better than people thought it would be, but it still mentions China’s Albatross, the downturn in their real estate market. They could totally get through that downturn fine but investors are the most uselessly fickle people on the face of the earth

              • @Sunforged
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                -82 months ago

                From what I have seen the downturn in the real estate market has been planned. The government over incentivized real estate growth so that private companies would over leverage and then the government could buy up these properties for pennies on the dollar to make them public. Of course western media is going to report on it like the sky is falling, it’s a communist country out maneuvering capitalism.

                I have plenty of criticism for the CCP but the current real estate market really could be some 3d chess, and if so good for them. We will have to see how it plays out.

                • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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                  72 months ago

                  Making it public? Where? Never heard that. They stay empty, people own them, it is essentially the only way for them to save on money (investment), hence this massive housing market with the tons of building shells just rotting. Not to mention the extreme quality issues with their tofu dreg.

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                    You dismiss the counter argument because you haven’t heard of it?

                    What the authorities refer to as “a new model” would replace the old emphasis on ownership with more rentals and use government funds to buy up bankrupt properties so that in time the government’s role in real estate would rise from 5% of the market at present to 30%.

                    Beijing will commit the equivalent of $280 billion a year for five years to buy up distressed private residential real estate developments and repurpose them as rental units. The plans also mention building still more units, some subsidized rentals, for a total of six million new units in 35 cities over the next five years. Beijing would impose severe restrictions on who could buy these apartments and would forbid purchasers from trading their units on the open market.