• notfromhere
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    9 months ago

    Then what you’re really saying is abolish the concept of states and have a single federal state.

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      9 months ago

      No, states still would elect a number of representatives based on their population. Just no 2 senators per state.

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        9 months ago

        Why even have states? Good way to get rid of jerrymandering would be to get rid of imaginary borders. No states, no senate necessary.

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          Because state legislatures should continue to exist. If less populated conservative states want to go down a rabbit hole of far right shit then let them. Just don’t give them 2 senators per state to gridlock the states that continue to produce and provide for their population.

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              9 months ago

              That is what is referred to as a false dilemma fallacy. You can have states and state legislatures without the senate.

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                9 months ago

                First time I’m hearing about that fallacy, but it seems to imply deceptive intent which I have none. You can also have machine screws in your peanut butter sandwich but it doesn’t mean it makes sense.

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                  9 months ago

                  imply deceptive intent

                  Nope, it’s simply an instance of an argument which erroneously limits what options are available.

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            9 months ago

            Why do you think the states govts should continue to exist if they do not have a direct voice at the Federal level?

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              Because states would still get a voice at the Federal level with the House, not directly and disproportionately, but rather through their population who are the ones who create value.

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                The house is representation of the people. The senate is the voice of the states. E.g. senate ratifies treaties.