• alcoholicorn
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    8 months ago

    OP thinks the west should continue to send weapons to Ukraine until Russia pulls out of all former Ukrainian territory, and putin is deposed and sent to the hague, and Russia is balkanized.

    Most communists want it to end as soon as possible, with the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine currently occupied by Russia remaining either independent or in Russia if they vote that way.

    This is usually misconstrued as supporting Russia.

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      8 months ago

      Ah, so you were in favor of the initial peace plan proposed by Zelenskyy at the start of the invasion?

      with the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine remaining either independent or in Russia if they vote that way.

      … and what about the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine remaining part of Ukraine? Is that not an option? Does democracy only count if it benefits Russian interests?

      This is usually misconstrued as supporting Russia.

      No, it’s simply recognizing the Motte-And-Bailey style arguments put forth by red fash. It’s the same pattern as the alt-right.

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        and what about the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine remaining part of Ukraine?

        This could be an option but what the cost? You all couch generals understand tha not only Russian ppl but Ukranians lifes are being destroyed?

        Do you undeestand that your option is to the deaths and war crimes keep on going right? Retaken these territories is almost free for you but not for Ucranians.

        Also, no Communist I know defends Putin, Russia is an imperialist scum as US, UK and France that are using Ukraine as their war table.

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      You sound like a nazi supporter in 1939 supporting the annexation of the sudetenland. What do you mean the nazis should pull out of the formerly czech territories? I haven’t heard the russian government give any reason they should be there, that the nazis didn’t give.

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      with the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine

      Only if all the non-Russian speaking parts of Russia get to vote to leave Russia as well.