Please start your comments with the following question answered at the top:

“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?” [Y/N]

  • Cataphract
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    9 months ago

    Thanks for asking a question and answering it for me, really great conversation you’re presenting. I think the worthless people are the ones who think there’s nothing we can do, you’ve already lost. Are you suggesting there are no examples or policies which could help correct our path? If everything is a “lofty goal”, what are you kicking the can down the road towards? Do you have any idea of what you’re actually doing or are you just knee-jerk reactionary at this point? Please fill me in on all your great ideas since everything presented in the history of politics isn’t reasonable. And please, no “lofty” ideas on what may happen in the future. We need concrete and realistic policies here since you know better. Oh, there are none? Fucking worthless.

    • RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Yeah that kind of question is something we call rhetorical where your answer is irrelevant because the answer should be apparent. I’ll remove the question mark from my keyboard so you don’t get confused in the future. Oh there’s definitely something we can do I’m just not so disillusioned by my own abilities I think I know the answer like the "don’t vote"rs. I’m not so confident in my abilities that I would preach the first braindead idea that slithered into my head. “Don’t vote” is the solution to “change the system!” and the logic to do so is flimsy at best and bordering utterly removed. The difference between you and I seems to be you’ve fooled yourself into believing not having an answer is better than whatever bullshit you can scrounge up from [Social Media Platform]. That you, without experience, merit, education, or really anything that would qualify a person to understand what would actually change the system believe you can do so because a bunch of people on [Social Media Platform] said it can.

      Your answer is break the system and reform it and when I long for your answer on how, you’ve still not told me. Instead you’ve tried to uno reverse card me which is pretty cute.

      My answer is to prolong the slow decline, to prevent the sudden drop into fascism a second Trump term would likely grant. My answer is to wait until an opportunity arises that allows us to make good, strong, positive change, not to throw my hands up and let things get much much worse. We almost had it with Bernie. We almost had a good blue president that would have given us the chance to do real good. So my answer is the same as it has been. Vote blue, no matter who, until such a time presents itself we can do real change.

      “Wait for a better moment” seems like a realistically bitter policy. To take my medicine no matter how distasteful with the hope I’ll get better one day. That a chance to do better will come before I die.

      No dreams there.

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        9 months ago

        wow, talk about someone smelling their own farts.

        Oh there’s definitely something we can do My answer is to wait until an opportunity arises We almost had it We almost had a good blue president with the hope I’ll get better one day. That a chance to do better will come before I die. No dreams there.

        So no actual policy? Just lofty dreams of a possible future time you could “maybe” do something, but you don’t even know what that maybe is? You’ve presented nothing but insults and demand other people present policy which you’ve already deemed worthless. At this point its apparent I could present something you agree with but you’ll disregard it because it won’t fit your narrative you’ve created. I did learn you’re an arrogant and bitter person so there’s at least that to get out of this conversation.

        • RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          “I hope things get better some day”

          “Wow you’re so arrogant”

          Yeah fuck off. You’ve abandoned the conversation to go “no u” and I’ve lost interest debating wall.