• umbrella
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    9 months ago

    whether you or me like them or not, they are a major player.

    now we just need china and a couple more euro countries to join in on the fun.

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      9 months ago

      Well it did say major players, plural. If you have major players directly in opposition and both feeling the need for conscription…

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        9 months ago

        Iran has always had mandatory military service for men 18+. You can buy out if you’re rich, but they’ve been drafting for years.

        And Iran is arguably the #3 major player ahead of Israel who wants to keep their military action at home.

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        9 months ago

        thats russia and the US right now.

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            9 months ago

            they are desperate for conscripts

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              9 months ago

              Why would you say that? They aren’t conscripting at all. There’s not even a whiff of anyone suggesting we need to activate the draft.

              Conscription refers to involuntary military service, and there hasn’t been a hint of that since Vietnam (it worked out sooo well in Vietnam, with a crazy high incidence of soldiers killing their own superiors).

              Even in voluntary service, recruiting is way less aggressive than it used to be. Growing up in the 80s/early 90s you were inundated with recruiting efforts, on radio, television, and even as a pretty aggressive part of school. My kid has not been nearly so exposed to recruiting efforts. Now we have a third of people going in compared to 1990 (and they are still turning down about 25% of applicants).

              So I don’t know where you are coming from, but involuntary service in US isn’t vaguely in sight and even if you mistook voluntary service for ‘conscripts’, even that is at a 40 year low and still turning away people… Hardly seems ‘deseperate’

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                9 months ago

                they are participating on conflicts all over the world and are missing their targets for personnel, despite aggressive campaingns on social media kids.

                this tells me enough about their involvement and possible future role in the next world war.

                it doesnt need to be simpler than this.