• Octagon9561
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    11 months ago

    Socialists are fascists, got it. Is that you Ben Shiapiro?

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      11 months ago

      Being politically apathetic while both siding democracy and fascism makes you a tanky. Letting fascists takeover our country isn’t a political position, it’s Russian propaganda.

      Roe ended because of the three judges Trump appointed. Trump has promised to round up millions of immigrants into camps so they can be deported. Building an alternate reality for yourself to live in isn’t productive or compelling.

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        What are you even talking about? All recent US presidents have shown very clearly that they are all war mongering fascists that bomb third world countries, particularily the Middle East with no respect for human life. And if the US doesn’t do it itself, they let Israel do it for them. It doesn’t get any more racist than mass murdering brown people.

        Furthermore, Biden has deported more people than Trump so far.

        You’re proving my point that stockholm syndrome runs rampant in the US. People need to realize that it’s not the president that’s the issue, it’s the US as a whole. And I do think the US is more dangerous than any other country in the world, including Russia so call me a Russian puppet all you want.

        But no, other side bad. They’re playing you all against each other and that allows the oligarchs to stay in power. How you don’t even realize that is absolutely mind blowing.

        Tell me how a two party oligarchy is democratic in any way. I’m waiting. Oh that’s right you can’t, because it’s obviously anything but.

        I focus my anger on the US government, not who’s the current puppet of it.

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          No, Trump is a fascist. Obama and Biden are not fascists, they are neoliberals. W Bush was a neoconservative.

          Trump is planning on rounding up and deporting millions of immigrants. This is not comparable to what Biden has done.

          Russia so call me a Russian puppet all you want. You’re a tankie parroting Russian propaganda. This election is a clear choice between democracy and fascism.

          But no, other side bad. They’re playing you all against each other and that allows the oligarchs to stay in power. How you don’t even realize that is absolutely mind blowing

          The fact that you are parroting Russian propaganda for free is mind blowing.

          We live in a democracy. No amount of Russian propaganda will change that. Electing Trump will end our democracy and begin a christofascist government where being angry at the US government will get you thrown in a death camp. Be angry at whoever you want. Vote for Biden because it’s a vote for democracy.

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            11 months ago

            Brain rot like this is exactly why I don’t like commenting on political posts on world and Reddit.

            Fascism and neo this and that aside, the US is an oligarchy. Every single US president was an oligarch. The US doesn’t have a multi party system. It is the leading imperialist power in the world.

            Very democratic. 🤡

            Claiming that this is somehow Russian propaganda is no different than a Zionist yelling antisemitism at any and all criticism of Israel. It’s beyond absurd and rediculous, yet people here are so indoctrinated that they don’t see it.

            Everything wrong with the US is somehow exclusively the fault of the other side lmao. Nothing wrong with the political system in the US at all.

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              11 months ago

              There are plenty of the problems with the US voting system. They are not relevant to the discussion about voter apathy in the next election.

              A basic history class refutes your arguments position. We live in a liberal democracy. Presidents are elected. We have a two party voting system.

              All your argument does is parrot Russian propaganda and engage in ad hominen attacks. It must be real hard to argue with anyone when your arguments lack substance and rely on alternate facts.

              A fascist takeover by the Republicans will result in America becoming a christofascist dictatorship. It does not follow that Americans should allow fascists to create a worse political system because of the flaws in American democracy. We should instead address the flaws in our democracy directly. In order to do that, American democracy must survive this election. The only way to do that peacefully is to vote for Joe Biden.

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                I literally studied history at university lmao. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

                But sure let’s discredit everyone as a Russian propagandist and Khamas supporter or whatever.

                The US is a two party bourgeois dictatorship. There’s no such thing as American “democracy”.

                Also as a Muslim, I will never ever support Joe Biden who’s a mass murderer of my people and no other Muslim I know will either. I will not get blackmailed with “but Trump”, they can both rot in hell.

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                  I studied history at college too. You really think you can trick people into thinking America isn’t a democracy?

                  If you don’t want to be called out for parroting Russian propaganda then don’t parrot Russian propaganda.

                  We have elections. People vote in them. A person denying reality when they clearly know better doesn’t absolve them of their civic duty.

                  Trump will kill more people. This isn’t black mail. He is has made his intentions public. The most effective way to stop Trump from killing more people is to vote for Biden.

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                    North Korea has elections too. It’s a one party state though, which is only a one party difference from the US two party system. That is not what anyone outside the US calls a democracy.

                    Both will kill people. I won’t support ANY mass murderer. If Trump wins, at least he’s completely incompetent and there’s a chance he’ll destroy the United States, which imo would be a good thing.

                    How about you don’t promote imperialist propaganda for a country that has terrorized the entire world for decades and has killed millions of people in its numerous wars.