• @Rhoeri
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    2436 months ago

    You support his ideology if you remain on that platform.

    • @vivadanang@lemm.ee
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      1226 months ago

      if you drink at the nazi bar, you might as well join their fuckwit club because you’re normalizing their behavior and sponsoring their lifestyle.

      • @profdc9@lemmy.world
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        156 months ago

        This is the point Humphrey Bogart is waving goodbye to Ingrid Bergman. We’re in Vichy territory now.

    • @Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      16 months ago

      Snooze motivation: moral condemnation

      Better motivation: the funniest possible thing will happen to Musk if we just log off Twitter and stay logged off

    • @AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works
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      -36 months ago

      Either that’s true for every social network and every time their leadership has abused its power, or sometimes people tolerate remaining on a social network because of the people. The same arguments apply to governments and their citizens. If the government goes fascist and you decide to remain, are you supporting fascism if you decide to remain living in your country?

      • @Rhoeri
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        46 months ago

        Do you actually think this is a good argument?

        • @mehul301@sh.itjust.works
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          Tbh I don’t see the argument as incorrect either. Pretty hard to migrate away from Twitter if others don’t.

          • @Rhoeri
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            16 months ago

            Since when has all-or-nothing ever fixed a problem like this? Saying you won’t leave because other won’t is fucking weak. Just like point fingers at others and using whataboutism.

            I’ll say again, if you remain on that platform- you’re supporting his agenda. Period.

            This is not up for debate.

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          I think this is a good argument for new laws and actions regulating social networks and what their owners are allowed to do, and I also think it’s pretty ignorant to demand people exclude themselves and become pariahs because of narcissistic psychopaths.

          Your problem is your solution doesn’t address the problem, it just runs from it.

    • @Bly@lemmy.world
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      -536 months ago

      I’m sorry but this is not productive at all. You could as well say that you support fascists if you live under a fascist state. Twitter is still full of people who are very unlike elon. There are plenty of reasons to abandon twitter but if someone does not that does not making him like elon

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          I just feel like if all of the left wing voices abandon twitter, the right-wing and fascist voices will become more common in general as twitter is where most people are. You cannot just let them exist and thrive unchallenged until it’s just not possible I guess. This will alienate people becoming more leftist if the average person, who just browses twitter because it’s popular, constantly sees more and more unchallenged bad takes.

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            twitter is where most people are

            Twitter is gone. There is only X.

            According to Musk, there are 556m monthly active “users”. A year ago Musk commissioned a study that found at least 11% of active users on Twitter were bot accounts. There’s plenty of reason to believe that that percentage has only gone up, especially in light of the fact that there’s been a significant exodus of users due to Musk’s handling of the platform, and that at the time of the study there were about 368m users. So either 200m people who were previously uninterested in Twitter were so impressed by how Musk systematically made X less functional and more expensive, or bot accounts became massively more prevalant.

            Regardless, with a global adult population of 8+ billion, in no world is 556m “most people”, even ignoring the bots. Facebook has 3b monthly active users. Tiktok 1b. Instagram 2b.

            As for the rest of the argument, the idea that the only way for extremist voices can be held in check is to politely engage them in rational discussion is sadly nonsense. They’re extremists. They aren’t interested in rational discussion. The only way to hold them in check is to deplatform them, whether literally or just by the old fashioned method of social ostracism.

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              Hats off to the downvoter who read this and apparently thought to themselves “hell no! 556 million is a lot more than 3 billion, and definitely more than half of 8 billion!!!”

      • @Rhoeri
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        216 months ago

        Bullshit. No one HAS to remain on Twitter. It’s a choice. Living in a fascist state for many isn’t a thing they get to chose not to do. So you can fuck all the way off with this apologist bullshit.