• koavf
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    11 months ago

    The “killer feature” is that they pay more to the developers, so if you are getting the exact same game on (e.g.) Steam versus Epic Games, then whomever actually made the game gets more money from the Epic sale. Isn’t that a good thing?

    (Note that I may be conflating the publisher with the developer, but either way, it’s still the case that less money is taken by intermediaries, which is a good thing.)

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      11 months ago

      Except they only do that because its the only way to get publishers to use them over steam, and once they have a reliable customer base they will reneg on that generosity to gain profit.

      We know this business strategy. It will not stay that way.

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        11 months ago

        Quite likely, but until then…

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          11 months ago

          Until then, what? You as the consumer have no incentive to use their worse service, and publishers clearly arent that enticed by it for how few exclusives the store gets?

          Or until then, you want to reward a bait and switch that you know is a bait and switch to try and trick you into using a worse product?

          Which option are you excited about here?

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            11 months ago

            Their service is in no way worse: I buy games, and I get them.

            I’m excited about the fact that someone provides an alternative to the monopoly that is Steam.

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                11 months ago

                It’s all I need: I buy a game, I download and play it. I don’t need anything else.

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                  11 months ago

                  Ok, and? All you need is water and moldy bread to not die, that doesnt mean water and moldy bread are equivalent in quality to a 3 course meal.

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                    11 months ago

                    Having a bunch of features that I don’t want or need is a waste. The Epic Store and Steam both do exactly what I need, so I don’t care about any of whatever the other features are.

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          11 months ago

          this is how we get companies like walmart and amazon.

          they roll in, throwing bags of money into a bottomless pit as long as it takes to amass a large customer base and ruin existing competitors. Then they start enshittifying, and everyone wonders where all the competition went.

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            11 months ago

            No, Steam are the monopoly now! The only other option is Good Old Games and for weird indie titles Itch.io.

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      11 months ago

      That’s a reason for developers to use them, not for consumers to use them.

      EPICs anti-customer practices (such as trying to make everything exclusive) are reasons for consumers not to use them.

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          11 months ago

          And are those because Steam is trying to pressure them into being exclusive on Steam? Or did they just not bother releasing anywhere else?

          If a developer just wants to release on Epic and nowhere else they can do that. My issue comes from Epic approaching games that have already announced a Steam release asking for exclusivity, and having no interest in hosting the game if they don’t accept the exclusivity offer.

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            11 months ago

            There are almost 40,000 entries, I obviously cannot answer for all of them.

            Still waiting for you to answer my question.

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              11 months ago

              Well you sound like someone trying to have a good faith discussion and attempting to continue would be a good use of my time.

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                11 months ago

                What is the alternative to Steam?

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                    11 months ago

                    Exactly. Not having an alternative marketplace–and no other one exists–is anti-customer and yet, you seem to have no problem with a Steam monopoly. Why?

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        11 months ago

        Yes, I do, or else I wouldn’t have mentioned it. I’d prefer the publisher gets money over a middleman store. Isn’t that preferable?

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            11 months ago

            How about you write what you mean and have quality conversation in the future?

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              11 months ago

              How about you write what you mean

              I did. Its a standard phrase used by people in conversation. See defintion #2 below.

              Below definition is from here

              you think

              1. A question one uses at the end of a sentence to express uncertainty. We’re not going to get into trouble—you think?
              2. A sarcastic rhetorical question used as a retort when someone states the obvious. A: “Wow, I bet that fire is really hot.” B: “You think?”

              and have quality conversation in the future?

              Quality is in the eye of the beholder, apparently. /shrug

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                11 months ago

                I did.

                If you did, then I answered the genuine question you asked.