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    the party is willing to accept an interim system that covers all essential prescriptions and expands over time.

    Expand to what limit? Personally I suspect that collectively we take far too many drugs. It appears that we do not have any definition of what’s “essential” to start with. The NDP have talked quite a lot about this. Should they not by now have made some effort to come up with an idea of what should be on the list?

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      Oh shit, this guy says we take too many drugs. I’d better throw out my life saving prescriptions.

      They’re already is a list of essential prescriptions and medications. Things exist without your direct knowledge of them.

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        Where is this list? My search skills are apparently inadequate to find it. All that comes up for me is stuff like this advocating that Canada ought to adopt such a list.

        Strong political action is needed to support creation of a Canadian essential medicines list both as a way to support national pharmacare and to support coordinated global efforts to mitigate drug shortages.

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          Why are so many people taking the time to downvote this without being able to answer the question? Is the population of this forum really so daft as to fall for the cheap rhetorical trick of pretending that I’m somehow attacking the very concept of life-saving prescription drugs, or even that of pharmacare just because I’m asking the obvious questions about it? Concrete facts ought to have some relevance in politics. A country can’t live on nothing but nebulous concepts and emotional reactions to them.

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            The question was answered, regardless of you ignoring it twice. You wrote a lot of stuff after tripping right out of the gate that means nothing if your original premise is flawed.

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              You’re misconstruing what happened, but more importantly still writing as if all you want is a fight. All I wanted was to maybe provoke some discussion from people who know something more than I do about what’s going on. Follow-up questions for anyone inclined to participate in this discussion in future (not me) might include asking why this “National Drug Agency” also doesn’t exist yet, despite having apparently been promised by the Liberals back in 2019. What happened to it? Did policy change? Are they going to come out and say “of course we’re building a pharmacare plan to cover essential drugs, it’s what we’ve promised all along”? If they do, in what ways will it be politically controversial among Liberals or NDP supporters? How long might it realistically be expected to take to establish such and agency and have it produce anything useful, and then how much longer for an actual pharmacare plan? Has any progress been made? Where would I go to read about it in depth?

              Anyway, I guess Lemmy is maybe not the place for that sort of thing.

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        Further, in this article it mentions at the end that the NDP have tasked the National Drug Agency to draft a national formulary of essential medicines by the end of the NDP-Liberal confidence agreement.

        Hooray, a substantive response! It only took you a few tries. Thank you.

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            It is not what I “wanted”; that would be something else entirely. But you know, I think such small successes are worth celebrating in a political envirnoment that so often seems devoid of even that much hope.