• underisk
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    You should probably get a better grasp of statistics before you try to lie with them. Black people are homeless at a rate four times higher than whites, are you going to suggest melanin causes homelessness? Hawaiians experience it at a rate three times higher than black people, what could possibly explain that other than their hawaiianness? Here’s my source, which I note you neglected to provide for your own stats.

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      are you going to suggest melanin causes homelessness?

      Are you going to suggest that race plays no factor and it’s entirely a coincidence? What exactly are you suggesting here? “All the data must be pure coincidence”? “What even IS data anyways?”

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        I’m trying to suggest that correlation is not causation which is not exactly an esoteric fucking concept. Unless you think that their skin color is the cause for it and that the solution is forced skin lightening treatments.

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          And I’m trying to suggest “it’s the sole cause” and “it has no impact whatsoever” are both fundamentally stupid things to say.

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            Skin color is not a cause you cretin, in whole or in part. The cause with black people is systemic racism and the cause for Hawaiians is the fact that they got turned into a fucking resort state and real estate spiraled. Just like the cause of homelessness is not mental illness, it’s an institutional unwillingness to provide them with homes.

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                System racism is not caused by skin color, either. It’s caused by racists and it’s not solved by fixing the colors to match.

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                  It’s caused by racists

                  Racists who are angry about…?

                  At least you admit that racism is a thing, so you’re not completely bonkers.

                  Now let’s pull back the analogy. We were comparing racism to mental disorders and drug use, right? Do you admit those are in fact things which exist?

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                    They’re not angry about the color of their skin. If you think that they are then you really don’t understand racism. There are plenty of places in the world where two very similar groups are racist to each other over extremely minor differences that most outsiders would overlook.

                    Make your point or don’t I’m not playing along with your rhetorical framing.