• flatbield
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    248 months ago

    China is the one county that could just tell Russia to get out of Ukraine. Same with North Korea. Just look at who they hang out with and you know quite a lot.

    • @zephyreksOP
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      58 months ago

      Why would they? The Global South is completely unaligned with the West on the Russia-Ukraine issue. It’s an issue between Russia and the West, not a global issue.

        • @zephyreksOP
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          18 months ago

          Why should the Global South care? People are dying there, too. We have a spoiled Western perspective.

          • @tias@discuss.tchncs.de
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            38 months ago

            For the same reason that the West should care about people being murdered around the world: it’s a human rights violation.

            • @zephyreksOP
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              18 months ago

              So it only matters because white people are dying? Damn.

              • @tias@discuss.tchncs.de
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                That’s completely misrepresenting what I’m saying. The very criticism against China that you are so against is the result of white people who care about Asian people.

                Yes, the West could and should do much better, and they are far from saints. But we’re not talking about what the West should or shouldn’t do. We’re talking about why China is being criticized.

                • @zephyreksOP
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                  18 months ago

                  Again, there’s a reason the Global South is aligned against the Global North on this issue, and it’s not because China has somehow bribed every country in the Global South.

                  Ask yourself why that’s the case. Ask yourself why the Arab League unanimously supports China’s management of Xinjiang. Ask yourself why Muslim-dominated countries like Indonesia and Malaysia and Nepal are all overwhelmingly positive.

                  • @tias@discuss.tchncs.de
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                    18 months ago

                    By “this issue” you mean the fact that Russia is murdering Ukranians and abducting their children? I don’t know what the management of Xinjiang has to do with that.

      • flatbield
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        98 months ago

        Of course they would not. They have chosen to be aligned with Russia. This whole thing is a Russia / China thing.

        • @zephyreksOP
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          38 months ago

          The entire Global South is aligned on this issue.

          I guess they don’t matter to you because they’re poor.

          • flatbield
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            8 months ago

            Most of the global south is aligned in staying out of it as much as possible. Their self interest is to play nice to all sides and play all sides.

            It is not the entire global south. I think Australia and Taiwan would both feel differently. Very convenient of you to forget that. From the original UN vote it showed that the Russian invasion was widely condemned through out the world including global south with some notable exceptions too.

            • @zephyreksOP
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              28 months ago

              Do you even know what the term Global South refers to? Given that you refer to Australia as being part of the Global South, I’m going to assume not.

              Don’t talk about things you don’t understand.

                • @zephyreksOP
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                  38 months ago

                  Many countries included in the Global South are in the northern hemisphere, such as India, China and all of those in the northern half of Africa. Australia and New Zealand, both in the southern hemisphere, are not in the Global South

                  Time Magazine

                  It was generally agreed that the Global North would include the United States, Canada, England, nations of the European Union, as well as Singapore, Japan, South Korea, and even some countries in the southern hemisphere: Australia, and New Zealand. The Global South, on the other hand, would include formerly colonized countries in Africa and Latin America, as well as the Middle East, Brazil, India, and parts of Asia.

                  Gendered Lives: Global Issues

                  Do you just enjoy being wrong?

                  • flatbield
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                    I know all this. The global south is just pretty inaccurate name for the developing countries aka the third world. It is not at all clear that China should be included. It is also a collection of some pretty much despotic countries though that varies widely. There are also some very questionable trade policies too including cartels, trafficking of all sorts, bribery, corruption, often high population growth, you name it.