• Dudewitbow
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    1 year ago

    Census actually does count any undocumented immigrants. I believe the requirement is that they live in a typical home.

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      It was supposed to. But I doubt the last one was very concerned about it, considering what trump was doing.

      They were also very not concerned about accurate accounting of minorities, etc, either

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        Which actually hurt red states. See, the number of representatives is based on total population, both citizen and non-citizen. So when it came time to reapportion congress, the undercounted data was used, because it was the official data.

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            And census takers counted as many people as possible in those blue states.

            Red states said fuck it, don’t count any non-citizens.

            And red states suffered from their racist policy in the re-apportionment.

            It’s a classic story that’s repeated over and over again. Racists put in place a racist policy to appease their racist supporters, and that racist policy hurts them.

            Look at Florida, where republican racists put in place a policy to punish anyone who works with undocumented migrant workers, and now, no one is picking Florida produce because the migrants went elsewhere.

            Whereas, blue states are open and accepting (for the most part) and offer help obtaining paperwork and even help navigating the citizenship process.

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              The census was a federal campaign. The states had nothing to do with it, it was administrated by the Feds.

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                States had nothing to do with it except supply local workers and resources for said workers, and then republicans made noises about using it to track down and deport undocumented migrants, especially in places like Texas and Florida.

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                  the “States” didn’t “supply” jack shit. The program wasn’t run by the states. the census takers and everyone else weren’t state employees. they were federal employees.

                  yeah. sure, they were hired locally. That means jack shit. this is like saying that New York manages the FBI because the current director happens to be from there. People were hired and are employed by the Census Bureau. the resorces for taking the census was funded and supplied by the Census Bureau. the policies of census taking -and indeed, using it to out undocumented immigrants- were established and managed by the Census Bureau.

                  and lets not forget the threat to undocumented immigrants was meant to bypass sanctuary states not cooperating with ICE. it may have lead to undercounting in red states, but there is way more documented cases of under counting in blue states, simply because of the failure to adequately allocate resources in blue states. which is why those blue states are going through the courts to have the census overturned.

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      Usually, but they tried hard not to count them during the last census. We really should redo the census now that Covid is less of an issue and try to get an accurate count.