• queermunist she/her
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    1 year ago

    Randomness doesn’t give us free will. It gives us chaos. No free will and no fate, just bullshit.

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      1 year ago

      Well, how do you define free will?

      I thought about it for quite some time and defined it for myself as following: free will is possibility to make two different choices in identical (down to quantum level and below) set of two universes. That applies only to something that has a “will”, which is yet to be defined.

      If being in identical circumstances you predictably make identical decisions, that doesn’t look like free will to me. Your choice was made by circumstances for you.

      So yeah, chaos it is. Nothing bad in it.

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        1 year ago

        Imagine you flip a coin in two identical universes, and due to quantum randomness it comes up heads in one universe and tails in another. According to your definition, the coin has free will. That seems silly to me.

        I’d define free will as the ability to make different choices, not just the possibility. It has to be something special about the will of conscious beings that separates us from unthinking objects like coins.

        I don’t think such a thing exists, but that’s the only definition that satisfies me. That’s why I don’t think randomness implies free will, because there’s no “will” there.