• queermunist she/her
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    23 hours ago

    And why were their parents in France and not Algeria? Why did they have to leave their homes to raise their children in France?

    Because of French colonialism in Algeria! Because their country was underdeveloped and used as a source of cheap labor and resources and subjected to the horrors of a military occupation by a colonial power! You can’t just isolate immigration in a vacuum without analyzing the impacts of imperialism and colonialism on migration.

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      The brothers went to Syria to train and attempt to fight in Iraq against the Americans. They stated their motivation was the abuse carried out at Abu Ghraib by the Americans.

      Then they trained in Yemen

      They were eventually assoiated with al-Qaeda in the Arabian peninsula

      They expressed a desire to kill Jews, Chérif Kouachi specifically stating that he wanted to firebomb Jews

      Targetting Jews is what their accomplice, Amedy Coulibaly, actually did attacking a Jewish supermarket

      Kouachi stated his motivation was “avenging the prophet Muhammad” and retaliating against the “killing women and children in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan”

      Jews, America, a media company. Not the French state. They have never cited Algeria as their motivation. You really shouldn’t be erasing their identity and narrative and substituting your own. That’s quite colonial of you…

      sources:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercacher_kosher_supermarket_siege

      https://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/13/world/kouachi-brothers-radicalization/index.html

      https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/from-orphans-to-terrorists-journey-of-the-kouachi-brothers-1.114610

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/former-teacher-of-kouachi-brothers-says-they-were-not-intelligent-enough-to-resist-extremism-9973318.html

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        I didn’t say Algeria was the motivation, I said it was the antecedent. French colonialism is the reason their parents had to leave their homes and the reason that these men were French in the first place. It’s not like this is ancient history.

        Now as for hatred for Jews and America, all that too ties back to imperialism and neocolonialism. Their hatred for Jews is obviously tied to the fact that there’s a Jewish-supremacist ethnostate in the middle east (that France supports) and which touts itself as representative of all Jews. Sadly, this results in blowback onto Jewish people who are not Israeli.

        But they’re still French so still pay their taxes to France which sends weapons to Israel. It’s only very recently that France decided to stop sending weapons to Israel, but when these attacks happened France was fully complicit in Israeli settler-colonialism.

        And most notably, France is a key American ally. America creates blowback that falls onto its allies.

        Blowback is complicated, but it’s undeniably the root cause. They even said so! My point: we have to analyze all of the context surrounding the attack. “French” Algeria, the War on Terror, Israeli settler-colonialism, etc etc it’s all connected.

        You are the one determined to erase their motivations by just making it about cartoons. It’s not.