For instance I know some lawyers and insurance CEOs who built the company themselves and run an ethical business model but because of innovation have made a ton of money. One lawyer has made a name for himself only defending those who have been hurt my big corporations and their life is ruined. The other made an insurance model that helps these hurt people invest their court winnings into annuities to guarantee they’re financially taken care of for life. These are not billionaires but both companies have won for their clients/work with hundreds of millions if not billions.

How can one clearly define someone like Musk or Bezos as bourgeois whereas these hard working individuals who came from nothing and build a huge business actually from nothing and help people?

Hoping for a non-black and white answer. My local MLM group declares everyone evil who isn’t their exact ideology. It doesn’t make sense to apply this thinking when someone whose become rich through helping people isn’t the same as someone whose has taken advantage of people for generations.

Edit: getting downvoted to hell when I am asking a question sure isn’t welcoming.

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    musk and bezos are not “bourgeois”! Oligarchs maybe?

    They are bourgeois and they are oligarchs. They own of the means of production and extract profits from the labor of others, without needing to labor themselves, which is what it means to be haute bourgeois.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_consciousness

    Marxists categorize classes based on their relation to the means of production, especially on whether or not members of the class own capital.

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      see the “Criticism” in the page you linked

      there’s no “haute bourgeois”. The class you’re refering to, the bourgeois, if it still exists, is milked by these monstrosities as much as the proletariat or the precariat.

      Marxism is not enough. The world that gave way to his interpretation is no longer here.

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        See them yourself. Garbage criticisms from libertarian cranks von Mises and Rothbard 🙄