• Jo Miran
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    Greatest ex-president ever.

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      Thomas Jefferson was before my time but was supposed to also be pretty good.

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        Plantation/Slaveowner and sorta rapist that paved the path for manifest destiny and westward expansion of the US

        pretty good

        Pick one

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          Also said that he was against slavery but didn’t free his slaves even though he could have done legally in his state.

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      Nah.

      Lincoln

      Honorable mentions:

      FDR (that is, if you weren’t ethnically Japanese)

      George Washington (that is, if you weren’t black, he’d been a great president)

      Yea I feel like every “Great” leader has a dark shadow. There are no saints in leadership, especially not a leader of a large country.

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        Of the names you listed, only Washington was ever an ex-president. Lincoln and FDR died in office.

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        FDR left a legacy of betraying allies in the post WW2 world. Fuck him.

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          FDR died before the end of WW2? How would any betrayal of the US allies post WW2 be on him?

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            Yeah that’s why I used the word “legacy”. He took part in the Yalta conference and along with Churchil they basically gave away Polish sovereignity to fucking Stalin. They also gave away Albania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Chechoslovakia, Romania and East Germany. He literally trusted one of the original invaders in 39’. He is the main reason the cold war even happened.