From remains an unabashed centrist who believes that economic growth, not the economic populism of Sanders or Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is the answer. “It’s important the critical mass in the Democratic party show that it’s the party of opportunity, responsibility and community but not the party of the left,” he insists.
He also argues that the party should not be afraid to talk about law enforcement and developing a system of community policing rather than urging “defund the police”. Likewise it should embrace the idea of legal immigration and a border that is under control. From applauds governors who have made jobs available to people without college degrees.
the lack of votes is because the democrats suck; telling them to vote wo addressing the reasons why they don’t vote is a waste of time.
There can be more than one lesson from an election. Democrats need a populist socialist and progressive narrative. Socialists, progressives, and leftists in general need to push the Democrats to the left by voting for them during elections. Between elections we need grassroots movements to get better candidates.
If leftists cling to accelerationism in 2026 and 2028 we will see the rightward trend of the Democrat party continue. Accelerationism makes it harder to fix things by allowing them to get worse while learning nothing.
Aka: Rinse and repeat 🙄
Let’s both hope your democratic non-voter buddies are pissed off enough at trump during the next cycle to show up and vote this time, because leftists definitely won’t if the dnc keeps going rightwards; again.
I can understand how daunting of a task it may seem to get your own people to vote from where you’re sitting on a horse so high that you’re unable to understand that you’ve bought into an alienating stereotype of your most needful allies to defeat the trumpers, but I have faith that Americans will come to see how we keep shooting ourselves in the foot; eventually.
My argument is referring to leftists. They are the non-voters. By definition, a non-voter isn’t affiliated with any party.
The DNC will keep shifting right if leftists don’t vote for them. A tit-for-tat strategy will keep leftists out of power and Democrats moving to the right until one group changes strategies. The DNC isn’t going to systemically change unless it is co-opted by socialists and progressives, but the DNC can change who they cater to. The DNC can start catering to leftists incrementally if leftists start voting for Democrats.
Your argument’s horse is dead. Your argument’s position was shown to be false this election. Leftists didn’t vote for Democrats in 2024 and now Democrats are catering to moderates and conservatives who voted. Democrats are not catering to leftists. I recommend you get of your dead horse. Until then we will be ruled by fascists.
As long as we still have elections, leftists will learn to vote for the most left leaning viable mainstream political party or they will watch fascists kill us all with death camps and climate change. Unfortunately it’s not enough for bad things to happen to people to learn their lessons.
I recommend you take the time to understand how the 2024 election disproves your argument’s position. No amount of bad election outcomes, death, or destruction of the planet will do that thinking for anyone.
Studies have shown that new evidence that contradicts a person’s beliefs is both as painful as physical pain and is not effective at changing a person’s position in the short term. People have to take the time to internalize that they were wrong. If we start now people should understand they need to vote for Democrats by the 2026 and 2028 elections.
The worry is that if leftists do vote for them, the Democrats will just conclude that they don’t need to move left to get left votes. The problem is the total inability of Democratic leadership to see any allegiance with the left or any advantage in attracting them.them.
More effective might be a concerted campaign to infiltrate leftists into the Democratic Party and change its direction from within. But that’s tricky because if you reveal your left sympathies the party won’t have you, but if you hide them the voters won’t vote for you.
I’ve had this conversation SO MANY TIMES with people outside the American empire that it’s taught me that it’s a waste of time w such a thoroughly propagandazed westerner sympathizer like you; but I’m bored atm so why not? Maybe I’ll learn something new?
As they haven’t since (in totality) since 2012 because of things like Obama’s drone strikes and the botching of Obamacare. Leftist haven’t voted for democrats in over 12 years and will not again until Democrats wake up to see how the DNC is gaslighting them.
The conservatives didn’t vote for Democrats; they haven’t that way since the 1960’s and never will again. And despite Democrats repeatedly failed attempts to peel away voters from the GOP in 1988, 1996, 2004, 2016, & now 2024. The DNC will try again in 2026 and 2028 and MAYBE Democrats disdain for Trump will change the tide.
Yes, correct, 100%; leftist have not voted Democrat since Obama and democrats will continue to insist that they should anyways; futily so. That’s an internal Democrat/DNC issue for them to figure out why democrats are not voting for the Democratic platform.
Incorrect; As I said: leftist started leaving the Democratic fold back in the early 2000’s. So now it’s only the Democrats caucusing with the Democrats (except maybe for bernie) and they’ve decided that their caucus is correct and that anyone else must fall in line and no one is falling inline; not even your fellow democrats in this ekection.
Yes; it’s the Weimar Republic all over again and simoly because the DNC believes that everyone must accept their platform; willfully ignoring that their platform is just as unpalatable as the republican’s platform; full fat facism and diet facism both suck.
The leftist have left behind knowledge on how to survive the Weimar Republic in writing; have you read it and has it taught you how to be ready for what’s coming next?
Correct: so long as democratics continue to assume that they’re the adults in the room despite how fowl their platform is dooming us all.
DEAR PLEASE GOD!!! Take the next logical step and realize that the Democrat platform so SO UNPALATABLE that not even your fellow democrats will vote for it and that your expectations of other parties accepting it are just as unrealistic as any republican accepting it; no matter how similar you think they are!
The DNC has been trying to peel republicans aways from the GOP since the 1980’s and it has always failed like it did in this election; they will continue to try again in 2026 and 2028 and it may buy time because of Trump; but it’s only a matter of time for our respective ruling classes adapt to this eality.
To clarify when I refer to leftists I mean, from left to right on the political spectrum, anarchists, anarcho-communists, communists, socialists, democratic-socialists, social democrats, and progressives. Of people with these political positions probably democratic-socialists, social democrats, and progressives were among the leftists that voted for Biden in 2020 in the greatest numbers.
Authoritarian communists or tankies are not leftists, but red fascists. They occupy the same position on the political spectrum as fascists and of course didn’t vote for Biden. Both red fascism and fascism are the same in that they both build hierarchies and then start killing people at the bottom of those hierarchies. The fascists build racial hierarchies. The red fascists build ideological hierarchies. Neither qualify as leftists because leftists want to deconstruct hierarchies.
you don’t get to gate keep for a multitude of reasons; but the most relevant one here is because they’re not your people and yes; leftists will sometimes break rank to vote for a democrat like they did for obama and also because trump was so shitty in 2020. if democrats put up another non-diet-republican candidate (or if trump royally screws it up again); they too will get more leftists votes; assuming voting is still a thing by 2028.
the problem with the democrats is that they assume that leftists must always vote for them like they’re on the same team; but they’re not on your team. there are multiple distinct leftists parties in this country; each one has their own unique platform and they only accidentally align with the democratic platform as it did with that of the republicans’ until maga took over.
the dnc is trying to make you believe that the people who aren’t even on your team are the reasons why they must turn your team into diet republicans and it’s so unpalatable that not even your own team members will show up to play ball anymore; much less so for anyone else, including leftists.