• chloroken
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    8 days ago

    liberal

    trying to rein in the 1%

    Choose only one. Liberals are those that subscribe to capitalism. You cannot be against the bourgeois while being for capitalism. It is contradictory.

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        7 days ago

        This, what you say is not as important as “How you say it”

        See the idiots going “I hate Obamacare, but I love ACA!”

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          7 days ago

          It’s a good start, but I’d go with ‘owners’ and occasionally stress, ‘all owners.’

          People respect plain speaking, and suspect convoluted speaking. If we want to win folks over, plain speaking is the way.

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            7 days ago

            Drag owns a toothbrush. Drag isn’t a member of the owning class, but drag is in the most literal sense an “owner”. Drag recognises you’re using a technical definition of a common term, but drag doesn’t think liberals will understand. They’ll see your language as convoluted.

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        7 days ago

        Baffling statement. “Bourgeois” is one of two words that define the way my ‘side’ views the world. I don’t think you and I are on the same side.

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          7 days ago

          It’s a question I’ve wondered for decades: Why do so many socialists speak in code-words — Bolsheviks, bourgeoisie, Engels, Marx, proletaritat, etc — which only push people away? Socialism is a grand concept; why not translate it into English?