Hello, I have some letters handwritten by my great-grandfather from the Mauthausen concentration camp in 1943/1944. Few of them have been transcribed by hand. They are quite a lot and really not easy to read (you can understand the situation) also if the pen trace is good and well preserved.

I am wondering if some of these new AI tools can help me transcribe them. I don’t expect an automatic transcription, but any help would be welcome 😊

  • kerbitsOPEnglish
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    19 hours ago

    Thanks, it’s a good idea. I’ll try uploading the original letter and the transcription, then I’ll try to ask to read another letters

    • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
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      18 hours ago

      Hope it works out. I’m not certain. I’ve seen some letters from that era and I know they can be hard to decipher. If you like, you can share a sample picture here. For us to try… But don’t do it if it’s too much personal information.

      • kerbitsOPEnglish
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        16 hours ago

        Here you can find a letter. As you can see, it’s pretty good quality but it’s difficult to read (it’s in Italian). In the next days I’ll try with chatgpt and company 😊

        • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
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          14 hours ago

          Well, I fed it into ChatGPT and Le Chat (Mistral). I’d say ChatGPT does a bit better. It gets a lot more words than I do. But there are quite some obvious errors. And I don’t speak italian, so it’s hard for me to judge and make sense of it. I’d say this still requires a lot of manual labor. But the AI transcription attempt will help massively.

          Seems he’s talking about his health which got better. And then the work and daily routine including times. And they’re 1000 men and women in service(?) and 250 people in his barracks.

          Some services I didn’t try but heard are good, too: Claude (requires sign-up with telephone number, which I refuse), and Google Cloud Vision (part of the business cloud services by Google). My traditional OCR solution (tesseract) outputs gibberish. I tried that, just to make sure.

          I won’t post the output, since it’s not usable as is. But you’ll see for yourself. I’m certainly surprised by how well ChatGPT does in deciphering the words. Probably enough for an italian speaker to complete the task.

          • kerbitsOPEnglish
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            9 hours ago

            Thank you very much for your test. I tried to load (ChatGPT) another letter and the initial part was so good that I was really surprised, but other parts of the transcription was non-sense. Anyway, as you said, it will be a good starting point at least to understand some words and sentences that can make the rest of the text more understandable