• zelnix
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    Okay then, that was always allowed

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      Yeah this is called blowback, like with the chip sanctions, like with industrial and natural resource sanctions. Trying to besiege economies that industrially dwarf the US will make R&D spending skyrocket in the targeted states, and the remaining irreplacable western monopolies will suffer for it, US NGO+academic+corporate domination of the open source scene is something that every gadget using or programming person should hope goes away.

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          If you want an echo chamber that repeats Wikipedia and Google News slop back to you, Reddit is down the hall and to the right.

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            Nah thinking that Russia gonna somehow grow using inexistent money for R&D and compete with US(?) Is pretty moronic also calling them forking the kernel as “blowback” it was clear for everyone that they would do that, except Lemmy.ml I guess, so yes I like my echo chamber of less delusional people

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              It’s ‘nonexistent’, and if you think that software development is fundamentally out of reach for financial reasons you have no idea how either their finances or open source development operates. Besides, shouldn’t you be talking about how they will need to rely on the Perfidious Chinese? No you just can’t even imagine poorer countries having hardware or developers.

              You really show your inferiority complex by relying on jingoism, not just nationally, but to the point of trying to turn ActivityPub homeservers into an upvote gang turf war. Just discuss what is happening and try not to get too worked up over taking in explanations.

              If you’ve ignored how many industries the US has fallen out of competition with internationally, then I could see being surprised by this. Semiconductors are a lot more challenging than software R&D and both China and Russia have rapidly overtaken the US market for low end chips, they will now own the market for chips for appliances and military hardware until the US system stops being a financial racket (not soon LOL). India has no problem getting into packaging and testing of chips and software development, they haven’t scratched the surface of nuclear or semiconductors like China and Russia. You just don’t pay much attention.

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                  See, you can’t refute anything I’m saying. It’s pure jingoism all the way down. Everyone you disagree with is a foreign enemy and a robot.

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                    I just have better things todo than say obvious things to a troll

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              “Waaaah this website has opinions I don’t like”

              You can’t contradict anything I am saying.

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                I don’t need to deny anything you are saying, I just get to stop interacting with an obvious troll from an instance that spawns people like you.

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                People think your “Russia has the low-end chip manufacturing market cornered” argument is not backed by evidence.

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          And yet you can’t summon even the slightest opposition to the take, only whine about how you don’t think it should exist.

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        Wow sounds like great news for Russia and a huge win for them then, I’m sure their internet trolls are supporting this decision instead of crying about it all over the internet, right??

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        Pick GDP, manufacturing output or whatever metric and look it up: Russia is not even close to the US. China is the one playing in the same league as the Americans.

        As for open source being dominated by the US, the stats for Linux development don’t give that portrait at all.

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        I dunno about all that… but I guess it’s a positive that you’re at least acknowledging that this is about sanctions and not racism or some other stupid bullshit.