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    29 days ago

    Classic tactic of accusing your opponent of what you’re doing.

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        “Some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” is exactly your stance with Palestinians.

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          By arguing against the candidate who has told Israel to do whatever it wants and accused Dems of not supporting Israel hard enough?

          That is an, uhhhh, interesting take.

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            Dude Trump is lying. How do you not get that? Biden and Harris have done everything they can for Israel. It’s in Trump’s favor to lie about that and make it seem like he can do more, but he really can’t. We’re giving them money, weapons, and now even soldiers as fast as we can.

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              Lol, is your position literally “America couldn’t possibly give more weapons to Israel!” ?

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                It doesn’t matter. They’re already covering for them as much as they can and they can only give so much. They’re already vetoing for them at the UN, sending cops and SWAT at students, and demonizing them in the press. They’ve denied them speaking times at the DNC, only talked about Israel in interviews, and Biden has already said no one has supported Israel more than me. This is the Democrats btw.

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                  It’s adorable and worrying that you think that’s as bad as you think America could make things for the Middle East.

                  “Oh no! The Dems didn’t let Palestineans speak at the DNC! Clearly, there’s no way trump could cook up anything worse than that!”

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                    The point is that Democrats have already expressed that they don’t support the Palestinians. You’re assuming they would despite every word and action to the contrary. You’re playing what is while a genocide is happening RIGHT NOW from the people you’re voting for.

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            By supporting someone who has their blood on their hands and is fully supportive of the ongoing genocide. Pretty cold take, actually.

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              And the alternative is more dead Palestineans.

              Believe it or not, the world is not as you wish it to be, it just is. And it’s for us to do as best we can for others given the real world constraints.

              As there are two options and one is worse for Palestineans, I support the one that is better for them.

              It’s not super complicated.

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                You have to support 99% Hitler who wants to hand out cookies before committing mass slaughter because if you don’t you’re supporting 100% Hitler and no cookies, which would make one a monster.

                There are actually more options beyond those, if people would take them. It’s a self-fulfilling prophesy to say that other options aren’t viable. It’s better to try to fight against that than to be complicit in supporting it. If it’s impossible, then it would be better to boycott the system altogether. Under no circumstances is supporting genocide morally justified.