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    Israel assassinated the guy they were negotiating with when he was in Iran.

    It’s always been a fucking lie.

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      I see where we’ve been pushing for a ceasefire for months. We’re not there killing people. You should be upset with Israel, yet you post this shit like it’s our fault Israel went ham after a terrorist attack.

      I think it’s all bullshit and everyone needs to sit the fuck down but that doesn’t drive profits.

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        It’s our fault that Israel has enough weapons to carry out this genocide and it’s our fault that none of the other actors in the region can pressure Israel to stop. Israel literally would have run out of bombs by now! The blood is on our hands.

        We never pushed for a real ceasefire by the way, we have only ever pushed for a temporary pause to release the hostages.

        What’s actually needed is a permanent ceasefire, a hostage exchange (so a release of all Palestinian prisoners), and an arms embargo on Israel. That’s the bare minimum needed to end the conflict - it doesn’t even get into the reparations Israel should be forced to pay or the truth-and-reconciliation commission that should be set up to try soldiers for their crimes against humanity.

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          You don’t think someone else would have given them the guns and bombs??? Your blame game is bullshit. Israel is doing the killing, blame them. Blaming our President is a ridiculous take. Do you blame the gun manufactures for the school shootings?

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            They’re a tankie. They blame everything on ‘the libs’. In most ways, in fact, they’re indistinguishable from a conservative.

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                Oh, they’re very real, sadly. Most instances defederated with the big two tankie instances, Lemmygrad and Hexbear, but the tankies still hop on their alts so they can whinge at anti-fascists on the wider fediverse.

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            Others would have supplied guns and bombs so we supplied it.

            What kind of lunatic argument is that?

            So much winning. Damn.

            Do you blame the gun manufactures for the school shootings?

            If they knew they were specifically being used for school shooting, just like israel is doing genocide? Yes, you buttstain.

            Serious case of brain rot you have in these threads.

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            No one else even could. The US has an unparalleled ability to supply weapons.

            Germany would supply some, I’m sure, but they couldn’t keep up with Israel’s demand.

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              You know this how? Feelings? Your degree in political science? Or just bullshit?

              Personally, my money is on bullshit, if you’re even real. How’s the family?

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                Name another country that could provide billions upon billions of dollars of military equipment.

                Russia? They’re allied with enemies of Israel, that would blow up in their faces. China? Same problem.

                Germany? Again, their output is much lower than the US, they can’t afford it.

                So who is it going to be? Can you name the country that would support Israel if the US pulled out?

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                    I know this because the US spends 38% of the world’s total military spending, and that includes manufacturing. We spend more than the other top ten countries combined on our military capacity! We’re number one, no one else spends this much, which tells me that no one else could match the US’s ability to arm Israel.

                    Who else could spend as much as the US does on arming Israel? And furthermore, who would even want to?

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            Oh also, yes, I do blame gun manufacturers for school shootings. They could make their guns harder to obtain, harder to misuse, and harder to use to perform mass shootings. But that would hurt their profit margins 🤑🤑🤑, so they won’t do that.

            That’s why I 100% support the political movement to make it possible to sue gun manufacturers for mass shootings.

            Do you not?

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              I blame the person using the gun, and I’m not a gun nut. Blaming the gun manufacturer, come on man, that’s a really shit take. You should listen to the white stripes song effect and cause. It lays it out pretty good I’d say.

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                Why not? If gun manufacturers limited who they allow to use their guns, fewer shootings would happen.

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                    I think I’ve been respectful and reasonable this entire time, even as people in this thread have disrespected my intelligence and dehumanized me as literally not being a person. This has been very stressful and I regret starting this thread.

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              My dude.

              Karl Marx specifically said something about this. You might want to read that. Bakunin had a few things to say about it also.