• StinkySocialist
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    4 months ago

    Isn’t it liberals handing the election to Trump by pretending like Biden has a chance and refusing to push forward a new candidate? Oh wait I forgot Liberals are fascist we just haven’t scratched them yet 🖕

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      Neat how a far right ideology is being championed by the left…oh wait it’s not

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      Let me just snap my fingers and swap out the candidate. Genius!

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        Do you think Biden should drop out and be replaced by a Dem who could do better in the polls? I’m not pretending you have any power I’m sure someone as feckless as you doesn’t. But you’re the type to insist that he should stay in the race despite losing in the polls right?

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          Do you think Biden should drop out and be replaced by a Dem who could do better in the polls?

          Absolutely.

          But you’re the type to insist that he should stay in the race despite losing in the polls right?

          Based on what?

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            My bad than Friendly Fire same team. Lmao

            Really hate being called a tanky by libs. I assumed you were one of those right wingers who are defending Biden to help Trump win. You know the kind of left-wing moderate who are so moderate that you makes you wonder if they’re just Republicans.

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              And I really hate when “Leftists” roll up to a discussion about the merits of making a choice at the ballot box to snarkily tell people that the magical solution is actually to just do something that’s outside of their control.

              It’s really telling how many people got pissed off thinking this meme was about them just because it includes the word tankie. Start holding the people like the one in the meme accountable instead of making wild assumptions and hurling insults.

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                I wonder why socialists who live under a government that did things like the Red Scare would be offended by people punching left than using derogatory terms for socialists like tankie.

                To be clear you should not punch left that’s something that fascists do.

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                  So you have nothing to say about Leftists pushing for Biden to lose to Trump, but god forbid someone uses the word tankie in a meme.

                  Glad to see your priorities are in order.

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                    Ive never actually seen that I’ve only seen people complain about it. I think it’s all bs honestly

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          Yet fools like you say this, but don’t offer any suggestions. Tell me, who do you think could replace Biden on the ballot now and stand a chance of winning?

          I’m just waiting for the bullshit “literally anyone else” as an answer.

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            Gavin newsome Gretchen whitmore Anyone under 70 who isn’t a fascist

            I’m sure you’re going to say they don’t have the name recognition and completely ignore the fact that that news would be so big it would make someone anyone including me or your mom one of the most famous people on the planet. Outside of that all they’d need to do is be able to string a sentence together better than the corpse of Biden.

            Was that enough information for you to understand? I’m used to people being able to think on their own 😏

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          Biden has a VP that can take over and a whole administration to take care of things.

          And there’s nobody else but his own VP who even have a chance, and might as well stay as Biden’s VP instead of introducing a new random person to the national vote. If Biden gives in before the end of the next term she’ll be the next president anyway

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            Biden has a VP that can take over

            But she won’t. She needs a Senatorial fossil at the top of the ticket, because he’s the “only one” who can beat Trump. Nevermind the polls. Nevermind his dismal debate performance. Nevermind the ample evidence of his cognitive decline. Kamala Harris is DOA in 2024. Only Biden can win.

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            Look if I thought bye and could win I wouldn’t care if he kills over or not I just don’t want Trump in there and Biden is losing in the polls.

            Trump has routinely been underestimated by the poles in the past see 2016 and how 2020 was closer than we anticipated.

            This idea that there’s nobody besides Kamala Harris that would have a chance as ridiculous. Biden and Kamal are some of the two most unlikeable candidates we’ve ever had. Looks at the polls.

            I would prefer a much farther left candidate than either of these but Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmore would both do immensely better against Trump Biden would.

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      Yes… But they’ll still blame the left… They know the only way to beat Trump is for the center and left to team up, but instead of actually trying to team up, they’re just running their usual strongarm and gaslight routine to get the left to fall inline… Which has never worked for them the way it works for the right

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      Isn’t it liberals handing the election to Trump by pretending like Biden has a chance

      Liberals refused to run a candidate against Biden during the primary and called anyone bold enough to step into the ring a Russian plant. Now Biden’s sunk under 40% public approval, donors are backing out of the campaign, and the news media is turning on him like a pack of starved piranhas. And this is also because of those damned Russians undermining his campaign. The SCOTUS is greenlighting an endless catalog of future atrocities, while Trump revs up an ultra-nationalist partisan revolt, and that’s thanks to Russia, too. Republicans are putting out all sorts of slimy ads on social media and their own right-wing networks, which are another example of Russian infiltration. And if Biden can’t close the deal in November, because a state fucks up its counting before the SCOTUS shuts the recount down, you know that’s going to be blamed on the Russians.

      So, really, this isn’t anything the liberals did. Its not even something the conservatives did. Everything bad happening in America right now is because of Russians. Also, the Chinese.

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      Marxism and Fascism are sister ideologies that are similar in both theory and in practice. This moronic idea that Fascism is the polar opposite of Marxism is literally Soviet propaganda that they pushed after WWII to justify their tyranny, massacres, and censorship. Which is ironic because this what they accuse the Fascists of doing. It becomes more ironic that the Soviets and the Nazis were quite literally allies who signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact where they agreed to non aggression, greater cooperation, and to invade and divide countries together.

      Marxists are Fascists are two sides of the same evil coin. Liberalism is the polar opposite to both of these shitty ideologies. You’re not the good guys.

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        Congratulations you said the dumbest thing I’ve seen all day!

        Are you going to ignore how Hitler first killed the Socialist have you ever heard that poem that has the line when they came for the Jews I said nothing for I was not a Jew and when they came for me there was no one else left go reread that poem and tell me who the first people they took where?

        Hitler used to refer to socialism as Jewish bolshivism. Do you know the Nazis killed more Soviet soldiers than any other country soldiers and that Soviets killed more Nazis than any other country killed Nazis.

        Both my grandfathers were American soldiers during World War II one of them went to prisoner of Work Camp in Nazi Germany do you want to know who Freedom the f****** Soviets.

        Do you know what country marched on Berlin and ended Nazi Germany?

        You’re fucking ignorant. Horseshoe theory is propaganda the US came up with during the Cold War. Read a book

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          Are you going to ignore how Hitler first killed the Socialist have you ever heard that poem that has the line when they came for the Jews I said nothing for I was not a Jew and when they came for me there was no one else left go reread that poem and tell me who the first people they took where?

          It’s not secret that Marxists and Fascists hated each other. Then again they hate everyone who isn’t from the right groups and doesn’t entirely agree with them. Still doesn’t change the fact that the Soviets and the Nazis did in fact sign an alliance that led to them invading Poland together… You know, the thing that led France and the UK to declare war on Hitler and officially begin WWII.

          Do you know the Nazis killed more Soviet soldiers than any other country soldiers and that Soviets killed more Nazis than any other country killed Nazis.

          That’s stupid. Of course there were going to be more deaths from both of them against each other because more soliders fought on the Eastern front than any other front. The Soviet Union and Germany were only two powers on that front. Them exchanging more deaths doesn’t mean what you think it does.

          Both my grandfathers were American soldiers during World War II one of them went to prisoner of Work Camp in Nazi Germany do you want to know who Freedom the f****** Soviets.

          Okay, but how this detract from the fact that the Soviets having their own work camps? The Soviet gulags were infamous. They had somewhere between 10 and 20 million prisoners between 1930 and 1953, and about 1 to 2 million were killed.

          Do you know what country marched on Berlin and ended Nazi Germany?

          Go to Berlin or ANY Eastern European country and ask them how the Soviet experience was. You’ll find that most people see the Soviets and the Nazis in the same light. They weren’t liberators, but ruthless conquerors. The Eastern European countries quickly realized when the Soviets rolled through that they weren’t freed, but rather “under new management”.

          You’re fucking ignorant. Horseshoe theory is propaganda the US came up with during the Cold War. Read a book

          I don’t think you understand that the Nazis ≠ Fascism, the Soviets ≠ Marxism, and the Soviets and Nazis fighting each other doesn’t make the ideologies opposites. Mussolini, the founder of fascism, was literally a life long Marxist before he created fascism as alternative to the flaws he saw with the socialists at the time. Fascism and Marxism are quite literally sister ideologies.

          This idea that these two ideologies are polar opposites stems from Soviet propaganda post war that they used to justify their tyranny and atrocities. It was a tool to keep people in line and purge out opposition. The reality is that they’re more similar than different.